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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We can only hope whatever he comes up with works better than the failed war we have been carrying out for the last 8 years that has put our troops in harms way and been counter productive.
    The surge worked and we have been able to downsize in Iraq. We need to give the military what it needs in Afghanistan to win.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    You actually believe Obama wants to destroy the economy?
    What would anyone win from that?
    The end of capitalism and the start of a socialist economy that would fit in with a one world economic system.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    There are only two solutions:

    1. Withdraw and let the Taliban take the country over.
    2. Put all the civilians in concentration camps, establish a big-brother state, and hunt down anyone who does not comply.
    Modern COIN strategy (COIN = counterinsurgency) is similar to your #2. Instead of placing civilians in concentration camps and establishing a big brother state, you instead establish security zones around towns. Place checkpoints to control traffic in and out. You take biometric readings (fingerprints, retinal scans) of everyone and issue id cards. You develop intel resources in the general population of civilians. Anyone that comes in that doesn't have an ID card, you figure he's an insurgent.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The end of capitalism and the start of a socialist economy that would fit in with a one world economic system.
    And the benefit of that would be what?

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It has been3 months since they asked for troops and still no decision. How is he listening? He needs to make a decision, not go on for months saying he is close to decision.
    How can you say he isn’t listening, when he had this to so say in answer to Cheney’s accusation of ‘dithering’?

    < "They tend not to be folks who I think are directly involved in what's happening in Afghanistan. Those who are recognize the gravity of the situation and recognize the importance of us getting this right.">


    I don’t know what Intel he is looking at, more than likely neither done the former Vice President. In my opinion and its just an opinion, that he is trying to put the squeeze on Afghan President Karzai,trying to get him to get some of the corruption out of the government.

    Probably whistling at the wind, as his brother, from what I have read has one of the biggest drug operations in the country.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And the benefit of that would be what?
    The democrats think they could control it

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    How can you say he isn’t listening, when he had this to so say in answer to Cheney’s accusation of ‘dithering’?

    < "They tend not to be folks who I think are directly involved in what's happening in Afghanistan. Those who are recognize the gravity of the situation and recognize the importance of us getting this right.">


    I don’t know what Intel he is looking at, more than likely neither done the former Vice President. In my opinion and its just an opinion, that he is trying to put the squeeze on Afghan President Karzai,trying to get him to get some of the corruption out of the government.

    Probably whistling at the wind, as his brother, from what I have read has one of the biggest drug operations in the country.

    Obama is playing politics with our troops lives. Obama is trying to figure out the best way to further his political agenda by using Afghanistan.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Obama is playing politics with our troops lives. Obama is trying to figure out the best way to further his political agenda by using Afghanistan.
    The only ones playing politics are the Obama haters on the right. They don't care about the troops, just hurting Obama.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The only ones playing politics are the Obama haters on the right. They don't care about the troops, just hurting Obama.
    That's a pretty moot statement considering groups like Code Pink are "left" leaning...Let's be honest...Both 'sides' are guilty of furthering their own agendas.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The end of capitalism and the start of a socialist economy that would fit in with a one world economic system.
    What is capitalism? It is an economic and social system in which capital, the non-labor factors of production (also known as the means of production), is privately controlled; labor, goods and capital are traded in markets; and profits distributed to owners or invested in technologies and industries.

    What is socialism? It refers to various theories of economic organization advocating public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended.

    Most of the world, indeed all of it, is based on capitalism. The "one world economic system" is capitalism. Elements of socialism exist, but they are minimal.

    We've had elements of socialism in our country for a very long time and they cause no harm. Indeed, they help.

    Do you drive? You've been using the socialist road system.
    Do you use the internet? Of course. You've been taking advantage of a service invented by the government's DARPA. (socialism)

    Obama has not made anything socialist. In socialism, people get rewarded based on how much they work. Obama has given money to people that don't work, such as bankers and other shills.

    Please, stop throwing "socialism" around like some sort of hot potato. This is not the McCarthy era. If you're gonna talk about socialism, please, at least be aware of what socialism is.

    General rule: Socialism DOES NOT necessarily equal big government.

    Read up on anarcho-communism. It is small-government socialism.

    In this country we have big-government capitalism and Obama is doing a lot to make it even more so.

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