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    Re: Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'd like to read both bills out of the House and Senate before passing judgement (or atleast read what the final product to the entire Congress would be). Anybody have links to the proposed legistlation?
    Links to the entire Senate bill, the CBO analysis, and section summaries can be found here:

    Democrats' Secret Health Care Bill Unveiled - Republican.Senate.Gov

    http://www.politico.com/static/PPM13..._11_18_09.html

    Cheat sheets - Live Pulse - POLITICO.com

    House bill:

    http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf
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    Re: Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates

    Here's a link to a side-by-side review of both the House and Senate health care bills by the NY Times.

    Thanks, RNYC. Much appreciate it.

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    Re: Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Here we go the fight is on.


    Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates - FOXNews.com


    Senate Democrats on Wednesday gleefully unveiled their version of President Obama's sweeping health care overhaul plan that congressional budget analysts estimate would cost $849 billion over 10 years-- a figure in line with Obama's call for a price tag of no larger than $900 billion.

    "We all acknowledge this legislation is a tremendous step forward," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said at a news conference, flanked by several other Democrats. "Why? Because it saves lives, saves money and protects Medicare, makes Medicare stronger."

    "We've traveled really a long ways to where we are and tonight begins the last leg of this journey that we've been on now for some time," Reid added.

    The Senate bill, which includes a government-run insurance plan that would allow states to opt out, would extend health care coverage to more than 94 percent of the population, or 31 million additional Americans. It also would cut the federal deficit by $127 billion over the first 10 years and as much as $650 billion over the next 10 years, according to the analysis by the nonpartisan CBO.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid released the bill and its price tag to his colleagues Wednesday afternoon. He has spent weeks merging two versions of the bill that passed out of two separate Senate committees.
    Here we have the next creation of a niche voting block for politicians to pander/fear monger to.

    You can sell anyone, anything these days.
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    Re: Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Here we have the next creation of a niche voting block for politicians to pander/fear monger to.

    You can sell anyone, anything these days.
    And here we have fear mongering from the right, trying to scare everyone with the boogieman of socialism if we enact this sorrya** bill.
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    Re: Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    And here we have fear mongering from the right, trying to scare everyone with the boogieman of socialism if we enact this sorrya** bill.
    There is lots of untruths on both sides of the political process, the things is though that you cant give people all the medical care they want and make things cheaper.

    You can look at Medicare and see that.
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    Re: Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    There is lots of untruths on both sides of the political process, the things is though that you cant give people all the medical care they want and make things cheaper.

    You can look at Medicare and see that.
    Yeh, we can’t have Medicare, after all we wouldn’t want to compete with private insurances gouging of the populace to the tune of 2.3% per capita according to the latest MedPAC survey.
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    Re: Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Yeh, we can’t have Medicare, after all we wouldn’t want to compete with private insurances gouging of the populace to the tune of 2.3% per capita according to MedPAC survey.
    There is no such thing as gouging, so that doesn't really make a difference to me.

    From your statement you seem to assume that I support health insurance companies.
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    Re: Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates

    Don't forget your teabags!

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    ATTENTION AMERICANS NOW IS THE TIME TO STAND UP FOR YOUR COUNTRY AND THE HOPE FOR A PROSPEROUS AND HAPPY FUTURE FOR YOU CHILDREN AND YOUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN

    This is not over stated and we cannot wait for the 2010 to stand and be counted to put an end to the Socialist/Marxist agenda being shoved down our throats.

    The cost to the Nation's economy and each and every individual is such that we may never recover once Obama, Pelosi, Read and the rest of Anti-Americans who currently occupy positions of power get their way.

    If you live in a State other than California where there is no hope from our Senators because they hate the Nation and everyone in it as much as the Anti-American triad of Obama, Pelosi, & Reid, then you contact your Senator and you tell them you will work to remove them from office if they back this crazy plan.

    This "troika of hate" is spending this Nation into oblivion. They have spent us into debt that is going to take generations yet unborn to pay for.

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    Re: Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates

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    There is no such thing as gouging, so that doesn't really make a difference to me.
    Sure there is, just check some of the states where insurance companies have a near monopoly.

    From your statement you seem to assume that I support health insurance companies.
    No, i assumed that you don't favor Medicare for seniors.
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    Re: Senate Health Bill Totals $849 Billion, CBO Estimates

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Sure there is, just check some of the states where insurance companies have a near monopoly.
    Please explain how they are over changing then.

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    No, i assumed that you don't favor Medicare for seniors.
    I don't favor third parties getting involved with individuals medical care decisions.
    As history has shown both Medicare and insurance companies raise prices by inducing consumption.
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