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    Re: AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Ask yourselves, "How would the other side (Republicans) pay for health care reform?"
    You don't have to wonder, just look it up... and btw, you are comparing apples to oranges, because the republicans don't advocate for a complete government takeover that would cost hundreds of billions.

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    Re: AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    It's the stupid democrats that want to shove this crap down our throats, just wait until the next election.
    Americans favor health care reform 58% to 42%, boo dog.

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    Re: AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Americans favor health care reform 58% to 42%, boo dog.
    Reform, yes... What Obama and the democrats propose, no.

    Big difference pal.

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    Re: AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Reform, yes... What Obama and the democrats propose, no.

    Big difference pal.
    As you know, him no can see it. Now you know what to do with trolls right?

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    Re: AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Republicans don't advocate for a complete government takeover that would cost hundreds of billions.
    Republicans advocate granting the health insurance cartel more ways to huck us over.

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    Re: AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Republicans advocate granting the health insurance cartel more ways to huck us over.
    I'm done with you... I'm dealing in facts, and your dealing in partisan BS.

    Have a nice day.

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    Re: AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'm done with you... I'm dealing in facts, and your dealing in partisan BS.

    Have a nice day.
    Considering this was the same guy who ducked both of his challenges to you to debunk his Media Matters crap, which you did, what exactly made you give him the time of day now? You thought he had become a reformed partisan hack in the meantime?

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    Re: AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Americans favor health care reform 58% to 42%, boo dog.
    Not if they have to pay for it.

    a Washington Post/Kaiser Family Foundation/Harvard University survey conducted in May 2007 found that 55% of respondents were unwilling to pay anything more in insurance premiums or taxes to increase the number of Americans who have health insurance. A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll conducted last month found that only 25% of Americans were willing to pay $500 more per year insurance premiums for universal coverage—far less than even the most optimistic estimates of what it would cost.

    David Brady and Daniel Kessler: Public Opinion and Health Reform - WSJ.com

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    Re: AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'm done with you... I'm dealing in facts, and your dealing in partisan BS.

    Have a nice day.
    A majority supports a government-sponsored heath insurance plan to compete with private insurers.

    The “public option” component of reform is an example of how details matter. Overall 53 percent in this poll favor a government-backed alternative to private insurance in general, a modest majority down a bit from 57 percent last month. But support rises sharply, to 72 percent, if the option is limited to people who do not receive insurance from an employer or through the existing Medicare or Medicaid programs, as called for in the House-passed version.

    http://abcnews.go.com/images/Polling...HealthCare.pdf
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    Re: AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    You don't have to wonder, just look it up... and btw, you are comparing apples to oranges, because the republicans don't advocate for a complete government takeover that would cost hundreds of billions.
    No one's advocating a complete takeover of the health care system by the government. And that's not the point of this thread anyway. So, please try to stay on point.

    The issue is where will the money come from to pay for health care reform?

    The Dems would be bold enough to tell you directly to your face, "I'm going to tax your income at such and such level to pay for it," whereas the Reps take a backdoor approach and would rather tax your high-end goods and services just so they can say "We didn't take money out of your pocket - but they did."

    Seems to me that's rather disingenuous, but hey! As long as we're all fighting amongst ourselves pointing figures at each opposing side of the policial divide, who cares, right?

    Wake up, people. Misdirection, disinformation, fear tactics, a play on words...

    Step away from the talking heads and talking points and figure things out on your own. Then and only then can some degree of common sense and rationale sink in. I'd much rather have legistlation that tells me exactly how I'm going to be affected where health care reform is concerned than to one day realize I'm paying too much in taxes for my health insurance. And should health insurance be taxed away? (As far as I know) It's one of the few things we buy today that isn't taxed.

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