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Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

I'm not arguing that. This clearly shows incompetence on the governments part. It doesn't however show that the numbers were skewed deliberately as many on here are suggesting.

Is not the Vice President responsible for this site?
 
He saw positive numbers and wanted to get them into the public as fast as possible to help boost support, morale, whatever. He made the assumption the reporting process was accurate and took the chance in presenting numbers not 100% verified. It happens all the time in business. It's a gamble and in this scenario it backfired on him.

It definitely was a stupid move on his part. He should have waited and had the numbers double checked before he opened his mouth. But that's the gamble he choose to take.

I've seen this same type of optimism kill people's careers. Obama seems to be going that way too.

This site cost 18 million dollars and it is still incompetent what does that say about Obama?


$18M Being Spent to Redesign Recovery.gov Web Site - The Note
 
It is not transparent it is getting caught

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The point of transparency is so that they types of discrepancies can be found by independent parties. Of course the hope is no discrepancies will be found but obviously that didn't work out to well.

Not being transparent would be not making this data available and mistakes like this never being found. Would you rather have it like that? It goes without saying that it would be preferred to have transparency and no discrepancy but that's not the case here.
 
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The point of transparency is so that they types of discrepancies can be found by independent parties. Of course the hope is no discrepancies will be found but obviously that didn't work out to well.

Not being transparent would be not making this data available and mistakes like this never being found. Would you rather have it like that? It goes without saying that it would be preferred to have transparency and no discrepancy but that's not the case here.

Transparency is being truthful not lying and deceiving
 
:rofl

The point of transparency is so that they types of discrepancies can be found by independent parties. Of course the hope is no discrepancies will be found but obviously that didn't work out to well.

Not being transparent would be not making this data available and mistakes like this never being found. Would you rather have it like that? It goes without saying that it would be preferred to have transparency and no discrepancy but that's not the case here.

Nice strawman ya got there..:rofl
 
This site cost 18 million dollars and it is still incompetent what does that say about Obama?


$18M Being Spent to Redesign Recovery.gov Web Site - The Note

That he's like every other President in our history.

Hundreds of millions of dollars are wasted every year on deadend projects and no one says anything. This project has potential but an error was found that can be fixed. Let them fix is. The ability of having transpraency where our tax dollars are being spent is worth the 18 million.

Let's focus on the $100 billion that we have seen in improper spending year over year.

More than $98 billion in improper gov't payments
News from The Associated Press
 
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Nice strawman ya got there..:rofl

Nothing strawman about it. It is the issue. The transparency provided by these reports allowed for independent parties to show the error in the governments process.

Would you rather depend on the government to find their own errors?
 
It's a lie, because PBO is claiming that hundreds of thousands of job have already been saved by the stealfromus money that has already been spent.

PBO's own recovery chief says that those numbers can't be verified, yet PBO has touted them as accurate for several weeks now. Now, either PBO is lieing, or he's just stupid.

Recovery Board Chairman: We Can?t Certify Jobs Data at Recovery.gov - The Note

I take it that your excluding jobs created from the stimulus package. :roll:
 
I take it that your excluding jobs created from the stimulus package. :roll:

I don't mind excluding it because you end up with the net negative. The value of the jobs destroyed by this spending exceeds the value of the jobs created by this spending.
 
I take it that your excluding jobs created from the stimulus package. :roll:

He's excluding jobs that won't last. Name some of the jobs created that will give someone a career or at least a long enough time to get their life on track. Or even jobs that could lead to other careers.
 
That he's like every other President in our history.

Hundreds of millions of dollars are wasted every year on deadend projects and no one says anything. This project has potential but an error was found that can be fixed. Let them fix is. The ability of having transpraency where our tax dollars are being spent is worth the 18 million.

Let's focus on the $100 billion that we have seen in improper spending year over year.

More than $98 billion in improper gov't payments
News from The Associated Press

Obama says he will pay for healthcare by stopping medicare fraud yet it goes up over 20 billion his firest year.

Good point.
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Obama says he will pay for healthcare by stopping medicare fraud yet it goes up over 20 billion his firest year.

Good point.
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Another reason the government has no business in health care.
 
He's excluding jobs that won't last. Name some of the jobs created that will give someone a career or at least a long enough time to get their life on track. Or even jobs that could lead to other careers.

I think that nuclear-waste cleanup in Aiken, S.C, would have some long-term benefits, as well as the 325,000 teachers and education employees added to the work force. It seems to me that were on track to meet the goal laid out of “creating and saving” 3.5 million by the end of next year.

When the chairman of the Recovery Board says that he cant certify job data posted on Recovery.gov.That hardly, equates to an Obama lie.
 
Nah, bored, I do enjoy seeing conservative circle jerks. Especially when they get all bent up with faux fiscal responsibility after turning a blind eye for eight years of the previous administration.So continue with the circle jerk.Enjoy ;)

So your saying that because Republican politicians betrayed their conservative beliefs that gives Liberals the right to bitch about the deficit for eights years under a Republican then turn a blind eye once a Demo gets in?
 
I think that nuclear-waste cleanup in Aiken, S.C, would have some long-term benefits, as well as the 325,000 teachers and education employees added to the work force. It seems to me that were on track to meet the goal laid out of “creating and saving” 3.5 million by the end of next year.

Where are you getting your numbers from?


When the chairman of the Recovery Board says that he cant certify job data posted on Recovery.gov.That hardly, equates to an Obama lie.

It's called disinformation.
 
It's the federal government. Money either went into politicians offshore accounts or into a secretive defense program.
 
I think that nuclear-waste cleanup in Aiken, S.C, would have some long-term benefits, as well as the 325,000 teachers and education employees added to the work force. It seems to me that were on track to meet the goal laid out of “creating and saving” 3.5 million by the end of next year.

When the chairman of the Recovery Board says that he cant certify job data posted on Recovery.gov.That hardly, equates to an Obama lie.

If it can't be certified don't post it because it is a lie.
 
Recovery Board Chairman: We Can’t Certify Jobs Data at Recovery.gov

November 18, 2009 6:00 AM

ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: The chairman of the Obama administration’s Recovery Board is telling lawmakers that he can’t certify jobs data posted at the Recovery.gov Web site -- and doesn’t have access to a “master list” of stimulus recipients that have neglected to report data.

Earl Devaney, the chairman of the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, responded to questions posed by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., late yesterday to say the board can’t vouch for the numbers submitted by recipients of stimulus funding.

“Your letter specifically asks if I am able to certify that the number of jobs reported as created/saved on Recovery.gov is accurate and auditable. No, I am not able to make this certification,” Devaney wrote, in a letter provided to ABC News.

Devaney rejected Issa’s suggestion that the site include a more prominent disclaimer, such as an asterisk or a footnote. He said the site already does mention in a note to users that “errors and omissions” are likely.

Devaney said that while he can’t yet provide a list of all entities that were required to submit information but failed to do so, “I expect to have access to this data shortly.” He also said the board will seek to correct data that proves to be faulty, and is promising “increasingly higher levels of accuracy in the future.”

The letter comes amid mounting criticism of stimulus figures that have been riddled with errors, undercutting the administration’s claims that stimulus dollars have helped “save or create” 1 million jobs.

ABC News has reported in recent days that Recovery.gov lists scores of jobs and millions of dollars in spending in congressional districts that do not exist.

Separately, the administration has slashed more than 60,000 jobs from its most recent report on the program, because the reporting outlets submitted “unrealistic data.”

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This just keeps getting better and better.
 
So your saying that because Republican politicians betrayed their conservative beliefs that gives Liberals the right to bitch about the deficit for eights years under a Republican then turn a blind eye once a Demo gets in?

Nah, just pointing out the hypocrisy of all the bitching about a “Democrat President”, coming in and cleaning up the mess left by eight years of …cough,cough, a so called “Republican President” mess, that seems to be the way it is, as usual. After all, it took Clinton eight years to clean the mess of 12 years of Reagan, Bush #1. :2wave:
 
Nah, just pointing out the hypocrisy of all the bitching about a “Democrat President”, coming in and cleaning up the mess left by eight years of …cough,cough, a so called “Republican President” mess, that seems to be the way it is, as usual. After all, it took Clinton eight years to clean the mess of 12 years of Reagan, Bush #1. :2wave:

Its a good thing democrats have Bush to blame for Obama's failures.
 
Its a good thing democrats have Bush to blame for Obama's failures.

One year, into an eight year term is hardly a failure; :2wave:plus if you take a closer look at my post, I was also including another past President in addition to George the first. ;)
 
One year, into an eight year term is hardly a failure; :2wave:plus if you take a closer look at my post, I was also including another past President in addition to George the first. ;)

What 8 year term?
 
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