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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama has said repeatedly, that there have been hundreds of thousands of jobs created, or saved by the stealfromus bill. That's an obvious lie.
    How is it a lie, when the stimulus is an ongoing operation?Only about 10% of the stimulus money has been spent so far.
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Thanks to the transparency provided in the availability of these reports it is shown that the data he used in making those statements are inaccurate.
    I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how this is such a great move on PBO's part...

    PBO apologists beat all I ever seen...

    Basically what you're saying is, "yeah, we know he's dicked up, but we know he's dicked up and that's what matters".
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    How is it a lie, when the stimulus is an ongoing operation?Only about 10% of the stimulus money has been spent so far.
    It's a lie, because PBO is claiming that hundreds of thousands of job have already been saved by the stealfromus money that has already been spent.

    PBO's own recovery chief says that those numbers can't be verified, yet PBO has touted them as accurate for several weeks now. Now, either PBO is lieing, or he's just stupid.

    Recovery Board Chairman: We Can?t Certify Jobs Data at Recovery.gov - The Note
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how this is such a great move on PBO's part...

    PBO apologists beat all I ever seen...

    Basically what you're saying is, "yeah, we know he's dicked up, but we know he's dicked up and that's what matters".
    Obviously you aren't reading my posts. I have stated there is clear incompetency displayed here.

    What you are FAILING to do is provide evidence that supports that this mistake was deliberate and malicious and NOT just incompetency.
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    How is it a lie, when the stimulus is an ongoing operation?Only about 10% of the stimulus money has been spent so far.
    It's been appropriated to stupid ****.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's a lie, because PBO is claiming that hundreds of thousands of job have already been saved by the stealfromus money that has already been spent.

    PBO's own recovery chief says that those numbers can't be verified, yet PBO has touted them as accurate for several weeks now. Now, either PBO is lieing, or he's just stupid.

    Recovery Board Chairman: We Can?t Certify Jobs Data at Recovery.gov - The Note
    He's obviously taking optimistic numbers, in the hopes they are 100% accurate, and touting them out to the populace in hopes of improving his numbers.

    That's not lying, that's incompetency and political BS. He thought the numbers were accurate at the time.
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Obviously you aren't reading my posts. I have stated there is clear incompetency displayed here.

    What you are FAILING to do is provide evidence that supports that this mistake was deliberate and malicious and NOT just incompetency.
    So, that's your excuse for PBO? Stupidity?
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, that's your excuse for PBO? Stupidity?
    He saw positive numbers and wanted to get them into the public as fast as possible to help boost support, morale, whatever. He made the assumption the reporting process was accurate and took the chance in presenting numbers not 100% verified. It happens all the time in business. It's a gamble and in this scenario it backfired on him.

    It definitely was a stupid move on his part. He should have waited and had the numbers double checked before he opened his mouth. But that's the gamble he choose to take.

    I've seen this same type of optimism kill people's careers. Obama seems to be going that way too.
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    He saw positive numbers and wanted to get them into the public as fast as possible to help boost support, morale, whatever. He made the assumption the reporting process was accurate and took the chance in presenting numbers not 100% verified. It happens all the time in business. It's a gamble and in this scenario it backfired on him.

    It definitely was a stupid move on his part. He should have waited and had the numbers double checked before he opened his mouth. But that's the gamble he choose to take.

    I've seen this same type of optimism kill people's careers. Obama seems to be going that way too.

    So, I'm right; stupidity is your defense? Glad we got that cleared up.

    So, it's better to be stupid than to knowingly lie? You won't have a problem selling that defense with this krewe.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Hyperbole.

    Please show any proof that Obama is lying here. They are obviously attempting to be transparent by listing how every dollar is spent and allow for inaccuracies like this to be found. Not being transparent would mean that such reporting wouldn't be available.
    It is not transparent it is getting caught

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