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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    everyone knows

    so much so, we're reaching critical mass

    the post, the paper of woodward and bernstein: "angry congress lashes out at obama"

    washingtonpost.com

    it's geithner, exposed as glaringly guilty this week for engineering those mega B's in AIG bonuses

    and financial regulatory reform, a related topic, gutted yesterday in bawney fwank's financial services cmte by the cbc, congressional black caucus, 10 of whose members sit on bawney's bench

    reg reform replaced cap and trade as obama's #2 domestic priority on sept 1 when axelrod announced the white house's big change in strategy

    the "phantom districts" cost obama a capacious clump of his fast shrinking credibility

    the disasters in asia didn't help

    everyone knows
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No it didn't.
    Really now?


    FY1999: $5.656270 trillion

    FY2000: $5.674178 trillion

    FY2001: $5.807463 trillion

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    Woops.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Clerical errors on a public website,


    Sorry sport this goes way beyond a simple clerical error it is a willful pattern of deceit for example the GAO just reported that 58,000 of these jobs supposedly saved by the stimulus package were supposedly from companies that didn't even receive stimulus money. THEY ARE MAKING UP THE NUMBERS, just like they made up this district. If this was a simple honest mistake there wouldn't have been no less than 440 fake districts in all fifty states, 4 territories, and Washington D.C.. If this was a simple honest mistake we wouldn't be seeing report after report overstating job numbers we would also be seeing reports understating job numbers but we don't, the errors are all in one direction.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Really now?


    FY1999: $5.656270 trillion

    FY2000: $5.674178 trillion

    FY2001: $5.807463 trillion

    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    Woops.
    I've explained this before.

    These figures include "intragovernmental holdings" which aren't part of the deficit. They are money the government owes itself.

    The deficit numbers don't lie. They clearly show the government took in more than it spent in FY2000, even when you include SS.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, it did not.
    FY1999: $5.656270 trillion

    FY2000: $5.674178 trillion

    FY2001: $5.807463 trillion

    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    woops

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Sorry sport this goes way beyond a simple clerical error it is a willful pattern of deceit for example the GAO just reported that 58,000 of these jobs supposedly saved by the stimulus package were supposedly from companies that didn't even receive stimulus money. THEY ARE MAKING UP THE NUMBERS, just like they made up this district. If this was a simple honest mistake there wouldn't have been no less than 440 fake districts in all fifty states, 4 territories, and Washington D.C.. If this was a simple honest mistake we wouldn't be seeing report after report overstating job numbers we would also be seeing reports understating job numbers but we don't, the errors are all in one direction.
    Yes, we would see report after report. Plenty of people don't know their congressional district. Measuring jobs created is very difficult. It's alot to account for. Get over it.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I've explained this before.

    These figures include "intragovernmental holdings" which aren't part of the deficit. They are money the government owes itself.

    The deficit numbers don't lie. They clearly show the government took in more than it spent in FY2000, even when you include SS.
    The national debt numbers don't lie, the intragovernmental holdings don't count because you say they don't? Give me a freaking break. Just because the government wants to play little accounting games by stashing away money doesn't mean that we still don't owe this money, and whats more we still pay interest on that debt. Sorry sport the national debt went up every single year Clinton was in office, saying "interest on the debt and off budget items don't count" is not a valid argument.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yes, we would see report after report. Plenty of people don't know their congressional district. Measuring jobs created is very difficult. It's alot to account for. Get over it.
    Yep not a single report underestimating job numbers, funny thing that all the reports are going in a single direction IE inflating job statistics. Nothing to see here folks.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    FY1999: $5.656270 trillion

    FY2000: $5.674178 trillion

    FY2001: $5.807463 trillion

    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    woops
    See above.

    These are not the right numbers to measure deficits.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Yep not a single report underestimating job numbers,
    How do you know they are overestimated in the first place?

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