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    Re: $6.4 billion in Porkulus money spent in phantom districts?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You would be right, except that the wrong district numbers don't even exist
    Right. That's the mistake. People don't know what the districts are. Perhaps they are using state legislative districts instead of federal.

    and those non-existant districts are receiving billions of tax payer dollars.
    Sigh.

    No, non-existent districts aren't getting any tax money. They don't exist. The money is going to an existing district - it's just not marked right on the forms.

    It's just people putting the wrong numbers on a form. That's it.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Because it's a pointless thread. The reports will be allocated to the appropriate districts and this will be a non-issue.
    Yep and thanks to record unemployment this pack of liars now has to invent a brand new shining statistic "jobs saved".

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Hyperbole.

    Please show any proof that Obama is lying here.
    Making up congressional districts and fake saved jobs?

    How is that anything but a lie?

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Making up congressional districts and fake saved jobs?

    How is that anything but a lie?
    Because they weren't made up? The jobs exist, they were just allocated to the incorrect, and sometimes non-existent districts, through reporting error. They failed to have a QA process to make sure the district numbers entered aligned with exiting districts.

    It was a failure in report processing.
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Because they weren't made up?
    Yes yes "jobs saved" Good way to whitewash over record unemployment.

    The jobs exist, they were just allocated to the incorrect, and sometimes non-existent districts, through reporting error.
    Prove it.

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Yes yes "jobs saved" Good way to whitewash over record unemployment.

    Prove it.
    I'm not trying to whitewash over unemployement records. I'm merely pointing out that this is incompetency in reporting and not a malicious act.

    We'll just have to wait and see what the watch dog groups find when the reporting is fixed.

    I haven't looked hard but ABC found that that the $34 million spent in Arizona's non-existent 86th district was actually spent in the existent 1st district. The receipts were wrongly inputted to 86 instead of 1.

    Jobs Saved or Created in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist - ABC News

    "The burden of reporting information lies on the stimulus recipients and if they submit incorrect forms there is no penalty, said Mr. Pound. “The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act set forth all the reporting requirements, but is silent as to penalties to enforce the reporting requirements,” he said. Fraudulent forms could be punished as a crime, but there is no mechanism to deter recipients from submitting inaccurate information through human error."
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblo...onexistent-di/

    As I have said before, it was failure in reporting and process. Whomever built the collection and QA process that recovery.gov follows should be fired.
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I'm not trying to whitewash over unemployement records. I'm merely pointing out that this is incompetency in reporting and not a malicious act.

    We'll just have to wait and see what the watch dog groups find when the reporting is fixed.

    I haven't looked hard but ABC found that that the $34 million spent in Arizona's non-existent 86th district was actually spent in the existent 1st district. The receipts were wrongly inputted to 86 instead of 1.

    Jobs Saved or Created in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist - ABC News

    "The burden of reporting information lies on the stimulus recipients and if they submit incorrect forms there is no penalty, said Mr. Pound. “The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act set forth all the reporting requirements, but is silent as to penalties to enforce the reporting requirements,” he said. Fraudulent forms could be punished as a crime, but there is no mechanism to deter recipients from submitting inaccurate information through human error."
    Recovery.gov shows money flowing to nonexistent districts - The Back Story - Washington Times

    As I have said before, it was failure in reporting and process. Whomever built the collection and QA process that recovery.gov follows should be fired.
    As you just stated. There is no incentive to report the numbers correctly anyway so why would they? So now which is it? Is the administration malicious or just plain incompetent?
    Thank you

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    Re: $6.4 billion in Porkulus money spent in phantom districts?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    A non-story. People have been putting the wrong congressional district numbers on the reports. Wow, big scandal.
    abc, cbs, cnn, the ny times, usa today, the chicago trib, the washington examiner, the wall street journal, the sacbee, the globe, the las vegas sun, the detroit free press, the ny post, the milwaukee journal sentinel, the atlanta journal constitution, the associated press, and many more all disagree with you

    to each of these mostly msm outlets, the story is all about the white house MISREPRESENTING the number and types of jobs supposedly created and saved by the stimulus

    every news outlet listed above and many others have published repeated articles calling into question the veracity of the admin concerning stimulus jobs

    i'm surprised you haven't heard

    ask david obey, chair of house oversight

    he says the situation is "ludicrous" and "outrageous"

    he pushed hard for this phony stimulus, he's very responsible for its passage

    he feels his progressive butt is on the line

    he's right

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    As you just stated. There is no incentive to report the numbers correctly anyway so why would they? So now which is it? Is the administration malicious or just plain incompetent?
    I haven't seen any evidence to support that these numbers were deliberately altered so I lean on incompetent. In response to all this the process architect for recovery.gov should be fired.
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    Re: $6.4 billion in Porkulus money spent in phantom districts?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Right. That's the mistake. People don't know what the districts are. Perhaps they are using state legislative districts instead of federal.



    Sigh.

    No, non-existent districts aren't getting any tax money. They don't exist. The money is going to an existing district - it's just not marked right on the forms.

    It's just people putting the wrong numbers on a form. That's it.
    It's one of those $5,000 hammer/$10,000 toilet seat things...

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