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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    I'm thinking the Clinton surplus myth needs it's own thread.
    Post a link and let's discuss this!

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Post a link and let's discuss this!
    Created it in General Political Discussion.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...n-surplus.html
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Read the WIKI and see how Clinton claimed a surplus while the debt increased one and a half trillion.

    When Clinton entered office in 1993 the deficit was 255.1 billion.In 2000,his last year of office, the budget had a surplus of 236.4 billion. Thatís a fact, now the wiggle room comes into play.

    < The trust fund is part of the total federal debt, which went up from 1998 at 5.4787 trillion to 5.6061 trillion and to 5.629 trillion in 2000. >

    Iím not going to cut and paste a bunch is s*** and waste everyone time trying to decipher something (when I have a hard time with my log book) but a few snips and a link might get my idea across.

    I believe that the surplus is/was what is called a projected surplus, the first time since 1969 that we were not increasing the national debt. That happened the last two years of Clintonís term. Here have a peek. Its not a Weki but it will do in a pinch.

    http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/02statab/fedgov.pdf
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Iím not going to cut and paste a bunch is s*** and waste everyone time trying to decipher something ([I]when I have a hard time with my log book.
    I'm sorry if it's too confusing for you,I'll rewrite it in crayon and draw some pictures.
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    When Clinton entered office in 1993 the deficit was 255.1 billion.In 2000,his last year of office, the budget had a surplus of 236.4 billion. Thatís a fact, now the wiggle room comes into play.

    < The trust fund is part of the total federal debt, which went up from 1998 at 5.4787 trillion to 5.6061 trillion and to 5.629 trillion in 2000. >

    Iím not going to cut and paste a bunch is s*** and waste everyone time trying to decipher something (when I have a hard time with my log book) but a few snips and a link might get my idea across.

    I believe that the surplus is/was what is called a projected surplus, the first time since 1969 that we were not increasing the national debt. That happened the last two years of Clintonís term. Here have a peek. Its not a Weki but it will do in a pinch.

    http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/02statab/fedgov.pdf
    You have been proven wrong

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Tax Cuts
    Yes and the Republicans voted against the biggest tax cut in history.So sad isn't it?
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    So there was really no surplus in the final two years of Clinton's presidency? Do explain!
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Yes and the Republicans voted against the biggest tax cut in history.So sad isn't it?
    Better than voting for the biggest tax hikes in history.
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    So there was really no surplus in the final two years of Clinton's presidency? Do explain!
    Go through the links,it explains everything in great detail.
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    Re: Exclusive: Jobs 'Saved or Created' in Congressional Districts That Don't Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    When Clinton entered office in 1993 the deficit was 255.1 billion.In 2000,his last year of office, the budget had a surplus of 236.4 billion. Thatís a fact, now the wiggle room comes into play.

    < The trust fund is part of the total federal debt, which went up from 1998 at 5.4787 trillion to 5.6061 trillion and to 5.629 trillion in 2000. >

    Iím not going to cut and paste a bunch is s*** and waste everyone time trying to decipher something (when I have a hard time with my log book) but a few snips and a link might get my idea across.

    I believe that the surplus is/was what is called a projected surplus, the first time since 1969 that we were not increasing the national debt. That happened the last two years of Clintonís term. Here have a peek. Its not a Weki but it will do in a pinch.

    http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/02statab/fedgov.pdf

    2/26/2000 Not Available Not Available 5,661,579,846,114.32
    12/27/2000 Not Available Not Available 5,663,706,592,936.09
    12/28/2000 Not Available Not Available 5,665,928,609,714.47
    12/29/2000 Not Available Not Available 5,662,216,013,697.37
    01/02/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,728,739,508,558.96
    01/03/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,723,237,439,563.59
    01/04/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,719,452,925,490.54
    01/05/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,722,338,254,319.31
    01/09/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,725,066,298,944.04
    01/10/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,724,315,917,828.49
    01/11/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,734,110,648,665.41
    01/12/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,735,197,779,458.19
    01/16/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,711,790,291,567.40
    01/17/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,718,517,343,351.92
    01/18/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,725,695,166,475.90
    01/19/2001 Not Available Not Available 5,727,776,738,304.64


    Yes it was a surplus on paper only. Look here the last year of Clinton the debt went up 66 Billion

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