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White House won't provide witnesses for Fort Hood hearing

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This purdy much says it all. What a ****ing disgrace! This is nothing less than dereliction of duty on the part of the president. He's going to have to resign in disgrace long before 2012 even gets here. The sooner the better.

The first public congressional hearing on the Fort Hood attack will not include testimony from any current federal law enforcement, military or intelligence officials because the Obama administration "declined to provide any" such witnesses, according to a Senate committee source.

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee has released the witness list for its hearing "The Fort Hood Attack: A Preliminary Assessment," scheduled for Thursday at 10 a.m. ET. The list includes four experts on terrorism and intelligence issues: retired Gen. Jack Keane, the former U.S. Army vice chief of staff; Brian Jenkins, a senior advisor at the Rand Corp.; Mitchell Silber, the director of analysis for the New York City Police Department's Intelligence Division; and Juan Zarate, a senior advisor for the Transnational Threats Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

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Wow.

Your thread subject says the WH won't provide witnesses.

Then I read the article, and the article says some witnesses are being provided and some other kinds of witnesses aren't being provided. And this is just the first hearing. Meaning, presumably, that there will be more.

Wow.

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niftydrifty said:
Wow.

Your thread subject says the WH won't provide witnesses.

Then I read the article, and the article says some witnesses are being provided and some other kinds of witnesses aren't being provided. And this is just the first hearing. Meaning, presumably, that there will be more.

Wow.

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Did you happen to read the first paragraph of the article?

The first public congressional hearing on the Fort Hood attack will not include testimony from any current federal law enforcement, military or intelligence officials because the Obama administration "declined to provide any" such witnesses, according to a Senate committee source.
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But hey, if it's a ****ed article, then all I can say is, it's WAPO.
 
Yeah, I did.

And I can't help but notice that "any such witnesses" is completely different than "any witnesses."
 
niftydrifty said:
Yeah, I did.

And I can't help but notice that "any such witnesses" is completely different than "any witnesses."
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So, you're going to make this about samantics? :rofl
 
Separately, a closed-door Senate Armed Services Committee briefing on the status of the Fort Hood investigation has been postponed, after initially being scheduled for Monday afternoon. That session was scheduled to feature top officials, including Army Secretary John McHugh and Arrny Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey. Committee aides aid the session was postponed only to assure that everyone Senators wanted to hear from could attend, and would likely be rescheduled for later this week.
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It looks like the Obama people are worried about this being turned into a political theater, and there is some cause to worry. I also suspect he is worried that this might interfere with the investigation ongoing. Whether that is true or not I cannot say, but I can understand it. Hearings are fine, I have no problem with that, but politicizing this and making a big deal about witnesses who are actually part of the current investigation, that is not needed. Congress is not being kept in the dark, as the above quote shows.
 
apdst said:
So, you're going to make this about samantics? :rofl
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You need to get out more. Semantics would be if the issue were over the meaning of a particular word. That isn't the issue here. The issue here is that you want to believe that something has happened, that hasn't yet, and you want to use that fantasy against Obama. Good luck with that.
 
Redress said:
It looks like the Obama people are worried about this being turned into a political theater, and there is some cause to worry. I also suspect he is worried that this might interfere with the investigation ongoing. Whether that is true or not I cannot say, but I can understand it. Hearings are fine, I have no problem with that, but politicizing this and making a big deal about witnesses who are actually part of the current investigation, that is not needed. Congress is not being kept in the dark, as the above quote shows.
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You mean like the political theater that Obama and Holder are setting up by moving the Gitmo terrorist trial to New York? Obama loves political theater when he can use it to attack his political enemies... just not when it is needed to fix this obvious problem in the military.
 
rebelbuc said:
You mean like the political theater that Obama and Holder are setting up by moving the Gitmo terrorist trial to New York? Obama loves political theater when he can use it to attack his political enemies... just not when it is needed to fix this obvious problem in the military.
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No just the "wait and see" liberals just want to be sure Aliens didn't make this Islamic Terrorist shoot those people instead of having to admit the real cause for the shootings.

And no, its not Bush either. :rofl
 
"I know there will also be inquiries by Congress, and there should," Obama said. "But all of us should resist the temptation to turn this tragic event into the political theater that sometimes dominates the discussion here in Washington. The stakes are far too high."
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What the?

What 'stakes' - the stake of him being painted as a ****?
 
apdst said:
This purdy much says it all. What a ****ing disgrace! This is nothing less than dereliction of duty on the part of the president. He's going to have to resign in disgrace long before 2012 even gets here. The sooner the better.
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it's stupid as hell to begin hearings before the real investigation is complete. nothing but political grandstanding. a waste of time, which is the hallmark of congressional hearings, either side.
 
liblady said:
it's stupid as hell to begin hearings before the real investigation is complete. nothing but political grandstanding. a waste of time, which is the hallmark of congressional hearings, either side.
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The hearings aren't about what happened, but are about why it was allowed to happen and no one took action. This is the perfect time to find out where the system broke down.
 
apdst said:
The hearings aren't about what happened, but are about why it was allowed to happen and no one took action. This is the perfect time to find out where the system broke down.
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You are quite correct apdst. However, investigations have been 'stonewalled' in the past, and this is no different. From what has been leaked to the press already it shouldn't take an advanced degree in criminology to figure out what is going on here.

Hasan, was a radical jihadist, or at least saw himself that way, hence the SoA on his business cards.

He had contact with a radical cleric in Yemen that used to be his Imam in Maryland, who also ministered to several of the 9/11 hijackers.

Hasan tried to establish communications with AQ, regardless of Chris Matthews pondering if that is "against the law" (it is btw).

And now the Obama administration is aiding this man largely I believe because he doesn't want to admit to a terror attack on his watch.


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Since any congressional hearings will muddy the water for a proper criminal investigation I am in favor of the WH keeping away from this. All those guys want to do is primp for future elections.
 
tjinta ibis said:
Since any congressional hearings will muddy the water for a proper criminal investigation I am in favor of the WH keeping away from this. All those guys want to do is primp for future elections.
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yeah, it couldn't be about finding out why no one picked up on a Major in our own military that was a jihadist terrorist, now could it? :roll:


j-mac
 
But j-mac, they did pick up on it. They just ignored it. And now, the WH wants to get as far away from this as possible cause you know that anything that happens while a man is president is his fault. That is the standard set by the Democrats with Bush so now they have to live with it.

Remember, political correctness kills.
 
oh baloney. it's grandstanding, period.
 
apdst said:
This purdy much says it all. What a ****ing disgrace! This is nothing less than dereliction of duty on the part of the president. He's going to have to resign in disgrace long before 2012 even gets here. The sooner the better.
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So you consider Joe Lieberman's public congressional hearing to be more important than the military or federal investigations? Maybe you should just move to Canada till a Republican is elected president. Have a nice life.
 
niftydrifty said:
And I can't help but notice that "any such witnesses" is completely different than "any witnesses."
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That was referring to actual witnesses that were involved;)
 
niftydrifty said:
Wow.

Your thread subject says the WH won't provide witnesses.

Then I read the article, and the article says some witnesses are being provided and some other kinds of witnesses aren't being provided. And this is just the first hearing. Meaning, presumably, that there will be more.

Wow.
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Are you really complaining because the OP followed Breaking News Forum rules???
 
WillRockwell said:
So you consider Joe Lieberman's public congressional hearing to be more important than the military or federal investigations? Maybe you should just move to Canada till a Republican is elected president. Have a nice life.
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Ain't it funny how Libbos are all about responsibility and the truth, till there's a Libbo prez involved?

I bet none of you were calling it political grand standing when the 9/11 Commission was convened just 60 days after 9/11.
 
liblady said:
itnothing but political grandstanding. a waste of time, which is the hallmark of congressional hearings, either side.
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very true

but sometimes congressional hearings are POLITICALLY necessary---to shut up the opposition, to get opp off your back

obama is (as usual) on the wrong political side of this

The Associated Press: Obama urges Congress to put off Fort Hood probe

it's clear where lie the prez's sympathies

he tried to change the terminology---terrorists are suddenly "man made disasters"

the war on terror turns into "overseas contingency operations"

he leveraged the law against low levelers at langley by appointing a special prosecutor who's name you don't even know

he moves ksm to manhattan for a madcap public melee

he pleads for patience on hasan's behalf, but precipitously imposes himself, unapprised, into the midst of the prof vs po po soap opera in cambridge

it's clear where lie the prez's priorities

and they're opposite (as usual) from joseph p sixpack's

obama's an extremist
 
Redress said:
It looks like the Obama people are worried about this being turned into a political theater, and there is some cause to worry.
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Bring terrorists for trial to NY.
THAT is political theater... we know what those idiots did.

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apdst said:
Ain't it funny how Libbos are all about responsibility and the truth, till there's a Libbo prez involved?

I bet none of you were calling it political grand standing when the 9/11 Commission was convened just 60 days after 9/11.
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The 9/11 Commission was not a public dog and pony show, it was the official investigative body for the attack. You didn't answer the question, is Lieberman's "investigation" more important than that of the military or FBI?
 
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