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    Re: Experts question motives of mammogram guidelines

    One of the main reasons for the high prices in health care today is the abuse of the system. The idea that you can go to the doctor for a 20 dollar co-pay, this was not what insurance was supposed to be about. If we would pony up for our simple office visits, young and old, think of all the money that we would save. If insurance was treated as it should be, insurance against a cancer, or an extreme injury, the money would be there for all concerned.

    This is like expecting your car insurance company to pay for four new tires!

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    Re: Experts question motives of mammogram guidelines

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    One of the main reasons for the high prices in health care today is the abuse of the system. The idea that you can go to the doctor for a 20 dollar co-pay, this was not what insurance was supposed to be about. If we would pony up for our simple office visits, young and old, think of all the money that we would save. If insurance was treated as it should be, insurance against a cancer, or an extreme injury, the money would be there for all concerned.

    This is like expecting your car insurance company to pay for four new tires!
    The problem is that such insurance is unavailable. The policy I would prefer to buy is one that would cover all of any emergency. I will pay for screening and elective care. I will go to Thailand for any nonemergency elective surgery. Major medical policies that exist in my state are expensive and have such large co-pays that even after meeting the deductible a person may incur large debts. It is criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    The problem is that such insurance is unavailable. The policy I would prefer to buy is one that would cover all of any emergency. I will pay for screening and elective care. I will go to Thailand for any nonemergency elective surgery. Major medical policies that exist in my state are expensive and have such large co-pays that even after meeting the deductible a person may incur large debts. It is criminal.
    Should we return to a sensible use of health care insurance, these plans would be available, and prices would indeed come down. Now don't get too excited, these things will still cost you, real money, nothing is free, nor should it it be, especially if it is the best care. This is yet another reason to allow for people to buy across state lines, the larger the pot, the more there is to access in the case of a real emergency. In that same vein, the larger the pot, the cheaper the rates, and this should be on a sliding scale. If you are a worthless fat ass, you smoke three packs a day, and drink a bottle of vodka a night, you should pay more, this only makes sense.

    Problem in this ignorant country, we seem to think everything has to be "fair", whatever the hell that means? Is it fair I work all day, do all the right things, and the crack smoking, beer drinking criminal gets the bed next to me in the hospital?

    The country is upside down, and we are only moving further in that direction with this insane new "public option", some people should die in the street, hell, put it on television every night!

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    Re: Experts question motives of mammogram guidelines

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    Should we return to a sensible use of health care insurance, these plans would be available, and prices would indeed come down. Now don't get too excited, these things will still cost you, real money, nothing is free, nor should it it be, especially if it is the best care. This is yet another reason to allow for people to buy across state lines, the larger the pot, the more there is to access in the case of a real emergency. In that same vein, the larger the pot, the cheaper the rates, and this should be on a sliding scale. If you are a worthless fat ass, you smoke three packs a day, and drink a bottle of vodka a night, you should pay more, this only makes sense.
    An insurance product that cuts out the overpriced U.S. system for 80% of care, would not be expensive if it existed. Such policies are unavailable because lobbyists have made certain that Americans are prisoners of the existing extortion racket. Why should I pay $175. for 1 month of Advair when it is sold in other countries for $30.? Why should I buy insurance that covers U.S. priced surgery when I can go elsewhere and buy the service for 1/10 the price? Why not send medicaid /medicare patients to India for care if they are fit to travel?

    Problem in this ignorant country, we seem to think everything has to be "fair", whatever the hell that means? Is it fair I work all day, do all the right things, and the crack smoking, beer drinking criminal gets the bed next to me in the hospital?

    The country is upside down, and we are only moving further in that direction with this insane new "public option", some people should die in the street, hell, put it on television every night!
    Cannot agree with you there. The public option is an anemic, pitiful attempt to help the self-employed (like me) obtain reasonably priced insurance. As currently conceived, it will do little to spark competition for the H.Insurance mafia.

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    Re: Experts question motives of mammogram guidelines

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    An insurance product that cuts out the overpriced U.S. system for 80% of care, would not be expensive if it existed. Such policies are unavailable because lobbyists have made certain that Americans are prisoners of the existing extortion racket. Why should I pay $175. for 1 month of Advair when it is sold in other countries for $30.? Why should I buy insurance that covers U.S. priced surgery when I can go elsewhere and buy the service for 1/10 the price? Why not send medicaid /medicare patients to India for care if they are fit to travel?


    Cannot agree with you there. The public option is an anemic, pitiful attempt to help the self-employed (like me) obtain reasonably priced insurance. As currently conceived, it will do little to spark competition for the H.Insurance mafia.
    I can promise you, if the government gets out of the healthcare business, you will be able to afford health insurance once again.

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    Re: Experts question motives of mammogram guidelines

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    One of the main reasons for the high prices in health care today is the abuse of the system. The idea that you can go to the doctor for a 20 dollar co-pay, this was not what insurance was supposed to be about. If we would pony up for our simple office visits, young and old, think of all the money that we would save. If insurance was treated as it should be, insurance against a cancer, or an extreme injury, the money would be there for all concerned.

    This is like expecting your car insurance company to pay for four new tires!
    So if those four new tires would prevent further damage to you car - would that not be a good investment?

    Regular visits to the doctor - particularly for the chronically ill - reduce hospital stays - so which is cheaper?
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    Re: Experts question motives of mammogram guidelines

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    So if those four new tires would prevent further damage to you car - would that not be a good investment?

    Regular visits to the doctor - particularly for the chronically ill - reduce hospital stays - so which is cheaper?
    LOL, so you are all for the four new tires....jesus christ, you people make me ill!

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    Re: Experts question motives of mammogram guidelines

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    LOL, so you are all for the four new tires....jesus christ, you people make me ill!
    I think you would have to go back more than 150 years before you found someone who did NOT think preventative medicine was a good idea
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    Re: Experts question motives of mammogram guidelines

    A dear one to me just went through surgery and radiation treatment of breast cancer due to the results of a routine mammogram. It detected DCIS in an early stage.

    I support the practice of having women over 40 continue to have routine mammograms, especially when cancer runs in the family--as it did in this case.
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    Re: Experts question motives of mammogram guidelines

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    I can promise you, if the government gets out of the healthcare business, you will be able to afford health insurance once again.
    Details please.

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