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    Re: Army Mom skips flight to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
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    It sounds like the Army has policies in place to prevent this from happening to single parents, but there was some confusion because the woman changed her plans last minute. I'm sure it will get resolved shortly.
    If all that is true, and she followed none of it. Then dishonorable discharge.
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    Re: Army Mom skips flight to Afghanistan

    Little sympathy here except for her unit and her baby.
    Her fellow soldiers are counting on her and she's letting them down. They have to follow the rules.
    Also, consider how long we have been deploying to the Middle East now. She knew before she got pregnant that there was a good chance she'd be deployed when her baby was little. Was she hoping it would get her out of a deployment? I wonder what the heck she was thinking, actually. It sounds like she has very little support in her life and it's not the military's job to be babysitters. It's ridiculous that they even have to do all this "reminding" to soldiers to have child care plans in place. Responsible parents already have that - and backups - without any intervention whatsoever. All the good responsible soldiers just show up on time and there are plenty of them. You never hear about them though.

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    Re: Alexis Hutchinson, Army Mom Arrested for Refusing to Deploy, Says There's No One

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    She did find a place to put her kid, but they backed out a few days before her deployment.


    Level 2, I agree that the level commander should be disciplined.
    There are several processes for handling these situations. She did not follow them. Believe it or not, the military is not all run by assholes. They know that sometimes things happen, and are not going to throw a kid to the wolves. Where she failed was in properly keeping her command notified, and that is an important failing.
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    Re: Army Mom skips flight to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If all that is true, and she followed none of it. Then dishonorable discharge.
    That would be using a sledgehammer to drive a nail, massive overkill. Other than honorable was made for these situations.
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    Re: Army Mom skips flight to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That would be using a sledgehammer to drive a nail, massive overkill. Other than honorable was made for these situations.
    Nope. Because if it was willful negligence on her part to not follow the orders then it was a conscientious effort on her part to give reason to not be deployed. In that circumstance, she stole my money, broke her contract, left her unit a man down. Dishonorable discharge. Look at it this way, you can't spell dishonorable without honorable. And note, my opinion on that is based on the assumption that she didn't go through the procedures provided to assist with single-parent soldiers.
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    Re: Army Mom skips flight to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope. Because if it was willful negligence on her part to not follow the orders then it was a conscientious effort on her part to give reason to not be deployed. In that circumstance, she stole my money, broke her contract, left her unit a man down. Dishonorable discharge. Look at it this way, you can't spell dishonorable without honorable. And note, my opinion on that is based on the assumption that she didn't go through the procedures provided to assist with single-parent soldiers.
    But that means court martial and more money spent on her.
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    Re: Army Mom skips flight to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But that means court martial and more money spent on her.
    Then don't steal my money.

    The particulars of the case will come out. It could be she tried to do something and it fell apart. There can be varying punishments because in the end she probably didn't notify or follow proper channels for notification. But if it was willful negligence where in she did not do anything to secure plans for her child should she be called into duty; then it was nothing more than a ploy to get my money and loophole out of any actual duty.

    This will be investigated and we'll find out more about it in the future I'm sure.
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    Re: Army Mom skips flight to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I can't really say that I feel sorry for her.She joined the Army knowing full well that she may to deploy somewhere and it is her fault for not making sure her kid was being taking care of or at least having a backup plan in case her first first option failed.
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    Re: Army Mom skips flight to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That would be using a sledgehammer to drive a nail, massive overkill. Other than honorable was made for these situations.
    Failure to make a movement rates a dishonorable discharge.
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    Re: Army Mom skips flight to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Failure to make a movement rates a dishonorable discharge.
    I just don't see it as worth the effort. Some one who misses movement has to be gone, but do it quick and easy and cheaply. The effect of an OTH is pretty similar to the effect of a dishonorable in the civilian world. In both cases, you can't get a job with the government or government contractor, but most every other employer won't even know about it.
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