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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    It's usually used in a more complex way than you're suggesting.



    Are you trying to say the majority of modern "conservatives" aren't really "conservatives"?
    I'm saying a majority of everyone aren't who they say they are...

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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I'm saying a majority of everyone aren't who they say they are...
    Ok... it seems to me that if the majority of people who identify as something have a certain belief, then that is the belief of people with that identity.

    Another problem with your schema... Let's say we have two countries. One of them infringes on a lot of social liberties, like Free Speech and the like, but has fairly low taxes and little government intervention in business. Another country has lots of social programs and business regulation, but has a very good record on social liberty. Wouldn't your measurement system put them at about the same point?
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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Ok... it seems to me that if the majority of people who identify as something have a certain belief, then that is the belief of people with that identity.

    Another problem with your schema... Let's say we have two countries. One of them infringes on a lot of social liberties, like Free Speech and the like, but has fairly low taxes and little government intervention in business. Another country has lots of social programs and business regulation, but has a very good record on social liberty. Wouldn't your measurement system put them at about the same point?
    That's the scale I'm learning more about atm. But no they wouldn't necessarily be the same.

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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    That's the scale I'm learning more about atm. But no they wouldn't necessarily be the same.
    Why not?...
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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    The scale to which I'm referring is based on Government interaction or involvement. Hence Anarchy being extreme right and Authoritarian being extreme left.
    Sure. I think you would agree that using the one-dimensional political spectrum is fairly useless without defining a basis. People often take left-right to be some kind of absolute frame of reference, and it only serves to their confusion to hold back on defining a basis. Indeed political spectra are coordinate dependent. To further the confusion is that left/right is associated with ideologies on the basis of equality, so when someone decides to define one side as left and the other as right, the usual suspects on the left may seem a bit unusual appearing on the right. For instance, on the basis of your political spectrum true communism would be far right.

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