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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    chicago, yes

    but statewide---

    if new jersey can go red, the land of lincoln can too, most assuredly

    the tide is that tall
    Unfortunately, the Chicago metropolitan area is about 2/3 of the entire state's population, so Chicago rules and the rest of the state suffers. That's why Daley is more powerful than the governor... and more corrupt.

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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    What world do you live in? Obama's popularity is fading fast.
    Not according to the CNN, ABC, and NBC polls.

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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Not according to the CNN, ABC, and NBC polls.
    He is at about 50% approval and still going down. This trial and healthcare and caps and trade could be his political death.

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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    He is at about 50% approval and still going down. This trial and healthcare and caps and trade could be his political death.
    One can always hope....... and I surely do.

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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    then how about authoritarian then? Obama clearly believes increasing the size of government is a good idea, and he may not be controlling the means of production, but he sure wants to control what happens after something is produced.
    Bigger government doesn't make you any of those. Government expanded vastly under Bush to a size unseen since WWII. Did that make him a Marxist/Communist/Socialist?

    No.
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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It really doesn't matter since the people that rule those sorts of government don't seem to care about the definitions either.
    Wow. Another person who clearly does not understand. Name me an actual Communist country in history, and no, China and the USSR failed key requirements.

    Nevertheless, those forms of government aren't us, never were, and should never be. So anyone who promotes them is anti-American, anti-consitutional republic and something the American people don't like or want.
    Huh. Bush won reelection. You appear to be wrong as usual.
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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Bigger government doesn't make you any of those. Government expanded vastly under Bush to a size unseen since WWII. Did that make him a Marxist/Communist/Socialist?

    No.
    With the wiretapping program, and further centralizing policies, Bush sure as hell bordered it, or at least opened the door for what is happening now.

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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Not according to the CNN, ABC, and NBC polls.
    Oooh! Polls by a News network! He's got you there! There are no margins of error or leading results in those things!

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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    One can always hope....... and I surely do.
    It's a given. Don't need to hope too hard.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dems at risk of losing Obama's old Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Wow. Another person who clearly does not understand. Name me an actual Communist country in history, and no, China and the USSR failed key requirements.
    There never will be any Communist country, ever, because it can only be achieved in theory. Human beings always **** it up and make it a dictatorship.

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