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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    Hence, it is said this will be a "circus".

    Man! If this trial is not one of the BIG issues that sinks the President, I don't know what can!?!?

    Of course, that is IF the AG allows this thing to start before the 2012 elections.
    Not to mention the feds talking about buying a prison in Illinois.

    The 2010 elections are the ones the dems should worry about their majority may be gone.

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Thats why it should be a military tribunal
    He's not a combatant. So no. No Military Tribunal.

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    cnn poll finds 2/3 of americans oppose obama's call to try ksm in manhattan

    majority of self described dems and libs oppose

    CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - CNN Poll: Americans want KSM tried in military court - Blogs from CNN.com

    "universally unpopular" is how cnn's pollster portrays the play

    obama is an extremist
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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    He's not a combatant. So no. No Military Tribunal.
    I disagree

    Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Was he apprehended during combat and is he on trial for an act that occurred during time of conflict under the outlines of the Geneva Conventions?

    Technically, we could just cap his ass and tell the World to piss off.


    On a side note, why do they all wear pedophile glasses and have those creepy rapist beards? Oh wait...nevermind

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Was he apprehended during combat and is he on trial for an act that occurred during time of conflict under the outlines of the Geneva Conventions?

    Technically, we could just cap his ass and tell the World to piss off.


    On a side note, why do they all wear pedophile glasses and have those creepy rapist beards? Oh wait...nevermind
    KSM acknowledges formally joining al Qaeda, in late 1998 or 1999, and states that soon afterward, Bin Ladin also made the decision to support his proposal to attack the United States using commercial airplanes as weapons. Bin Ladin summoned KSM to Kandahar in March or April 1999 to tell him that al Qaeda would support his proposal. The plot was now referred to within al Qaeda as the “planes operation.” No one else but KSM, Bin Ladin, and Atef were involved in the initial selection of targets.

    Much of his activity in mid-1999 had revolved around the collection of training and informational materials for the participants in the planes operation. For instance, he collected Western aviation magazines; telephone directories for American cities such as San Diego and Long Beach, California; brochures for schools; and airline timetables, and he conducted Internet searches on U.S. flight schools. He also purchased flight simulator software and a few movies depicting hijackings. To house his students, KSM rented a safehouse in Karachi with money provided by Bin Ladin. The course in Karachi apparently lasted about one or two weeks. According to KSM, he taught the three operatives basic English words and phrases. He showed them how to read phone books,interpret airline timetables, use the Internet, use code words in communications, make travel reservations, and rent an apartment. KSM told them to watch the cabin doors at takeoff and landing, to observe whether the captain went to the lavatory during the flight, and to note whether the flight attendants brought food into the cockpit.

    Although Bin Ladin, Atef, and KSM initially contemplated using established al Qaeda members to execute the planes operation, the late 1999 arrival in Kandahar of four aspiring jihadists from Germany suddenly presented a more attractive alternative. The Hamburg group shared the anti-U.S. fervor of the other candidates for the operation, but added the enormous advantages of fluency in English and familiarity with life in the West, based on years that each member of the group had spent living in Germany.

    KSM played a key role in facilitating travel for al Qaeda operatives. KSM provided his operatives with nearly all the money they needed to travel to the United States, train, and live. The available evidence indicates that the 19 operatives were funded by al Qaeda, either through wire transfers or cash provided by KSM, which they carried into the United States or deposited in foreign accounts and accessed from the United States. KSM, Binalshibh, and another plot facilitator, Mustafa al Hawsawi, each received money, in some cases perhaps as much as $10,000, to perform their roles in the plot. According to KSM, the Hamburg cell members each received $5,000 to pay for their return to Germany from Afghanistan after they had been selected to join the plot, and they received additional funds for travel from Germany to the United States.

    Sheikh Mohammed's arrest in Rawalpindi, Pakistan on March 1, 2003 marks one of the most important breakthroughs in the fight against al-Qaeda. The two key factors leading to his arrest was a bribe to an Al-Qaeda operative in the amount of $27 million, as well as information gained from the NSA electronic surveillance network, Echelon. Although the arrest was solely a Pakistani operation the FBI observed the arrest and was to a large degree invovled in the interrogation process. Pakistani officials claim that KSM remained in Pakistan for 3 days and then was subsequently moved to an undisclosed location by US officials.

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    KSM acknowledges formally joining al Qaeda, in late 1998 or 1999, and states that soon afterward, Bin Ladin also made the decision to support his proposal to attack the United States using commercial airplanes as weapons. Bin Ladin summoned KSM to Kandahar in March or April 1999 to tell him that al Qaeda would support his proposal. The plot was now referred to within al Qaeda as the “planes operation.” No one else but KSM, Bin Ladin, and Atef were involved in the initial selection of targets.

    Much of his activity in mid-1999 had revolved around the collection of training and informational materials for the participants in the planes operation. For instance, he collected Western aviation magazines; telephone directories for American cities such as San Diego and Long Beach, California; brochures for schools; and airline timetables, and he conducted Internet searches on U.S. flight schools. He also purchased flight simulator software and a few movies depicting hijackings. To house his students, KSM rented a safehouse in Karachi with money provided by Bin Ladin. The course in Karachi apparently lasted about one or two weeks. According to KSM, he taught the three operatives basic English words and phrases. He showed them how to read phone books,interpret airline timetables, use the Internet, use code words in communications, make travel reservations, and rent an apartment. KSM told them to watch the cabin doors at takeoff and landing, to observe whether the captain went to the lavatory during the flight, and to note whether the flight attendants brought food into the cockpit.

    Although Bin Ladin, Atef, and KSM initially contemplated using established al Qaeda members to execute the planes operation, the late 1999 arrival in Kandahar of four aspiring jihadists from Germany suddenly presented a more attractive alternative. The Hamburg group shared the anti-U.S. fervor of the other candidates for the operation, but added the enormous advantages of fluency in English and familiarity with life in the West, based on years that each member of the group had spent living in Germany.

    KSM played a key role in facilitating travel for al Qaeda operatives. KSM provided his operatives with nearly all the money they needed to travel to the United States, train, and live. The available evidence indicates that the 19 operatives were funded by al Qaeda, either through wire transfers or cash provided by KSM, which they carried into the United States or deposited in foreign accounts and accessed from the United States. KSM, Binalshibh, and another plot facilitator, Mustafa al Hawsawi, each received money, in some cases perhaps as much as $10,000, to perform their roles in the plot. According to KSM, the Hamburg cell members each received $5,000 to pay for their return to Germany from Afghanistan after they had been selected to join the plot, and they received additional funds for travel from Germany to the United States.

    Sheikh Mohammed's arrest in Rawalpindi, Pakistan on March 1, 2003 marks one of the most important breakthroughs in the fight against al-Qaeda. The two key factors leading to his arrest was a bribe to an Al-Qaeda operative in the amount of $27 million, as well as information gained from the NSA electronic surveillance network, Echelon. Although the arrest was solely a Pakistani operation the FBI observed the arrest and was to a large degree invovled in the interrogation process. Pakistani officials claim that KSM remained in Pakistan for 3 days and then was subsequently moved to an undisclosed location by US officials.
    He's still not a combatant. He's not following the "Laws" of War, and neither should we.

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    He's still not a combatant. He's not following the "Laws" of War, and neither should we.
    He organized an act of war

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Giving terrorists a platform.....Good show Obama.


    j-mac
    Allowing jihadist assholes to have a regular criminal trial is a mistake. Obama is wrong on this issue and he needs to wake his blind ass up and realize what he is doing to the country.

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    He's still not a combatant. He's not following the "Laws" of War, and neither should we.
    He organized the largest and most lethal terrorist attack ever seen on American soil.

    He most certain is an enemy combatant.

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