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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    well when you start treating terrorists as people afforded due proccess under the US consitution....


    what happens wen they allow the confession under coercion in as evidence.


    sets precedence.


    Be wary.
    Im trying to establish a link between that answer and my question again who decides who is a terroist, and how? or should we just let the police shoot whoever looks a like terroist on the spot?
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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Im trying to establish a link between that answer and my question again who decides who is a terroist, and how? or should we just let the police shoot whoever looks a like terroist on the spot?


    Let me try it again. When we start proccessing 911 masterminds like carjackers, that definition gets a lot wider a lot faster.
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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Let me try it again. When we start proccessing 911 masterminds like carjackers, that definition gets a lot wider a lot faster.
    What definition is that? and again that doesnt answer my question. Also bear in mind that the consitution implies that these rights are universial.
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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    What definition is that? and again that doesnt answer my question



    I guess I can't help you then.


    I'm not real good with loaded questions. Tell me what answer do you want. I'll consider it.
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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Also bear in mind that the consitution implies that these rights are universial.


    It does?


    then why does it define who is a citizen and its jurisdiction?
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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I guess I can't help you then.


    I'm not real good with loaded questions. Tell me what answer do you want. I'll consider it.
    Its not so much a loaded question as a basic practicality inherent in what you surgested. You,ve said that the if someone is a terroist then that state can kill him without a trial. So if your going to go down this route then logically theres got to be someone who decides who the terroists are. If there is no system for making sure he gets this decision right then basically you have just given him licence to kill (no pun intended) whoever he sees fit. Or more to the point you have given the state licence to kill whomever it sees fit.

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    It does?


    then why does it define who is a citizen and its jurisdiction?
    all men....self evident...god given. Sounds pretty universal to me. And surely if this guy is on U.S territory then he is within the consitutions juristiction.

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No, not if you are muslim. Then you are guilty until you are executed. That is the conservative way of thinking. I bet it also applies to anyone who disagrees with them.
    He did confess once already.

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    Re: A diatribe defense: Pros say Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will act as his own lawyer in

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Its not so much a loaded question as a basic practicality inherent in what you surgested. You,ve said that the if someone is a terroist then that state can kill him without a trial.

    I did, I said that? Really? Please quote me....

    So if your going to go down this route then logically theres got to be someone who decides who the terroists are. If there is no system for making sure he gets this decision right then basically you have just given him licence to kill (no pun intended) whoever he sees fit. Or more to the point you have given the state licence to kill whomever it sees fit.


    I see you working hard on this strawman.....



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