"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without."
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
People here need to get their priorities straight for a change.
"If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu
It seems as though, in a grand case of irony, that one of the cuts that is talked about regards healthcare for those who currently use a "public" system in medicare. That should be an alarm going off for everybody who supports a national public healthcare system. People whine about how greedy insurance companies deny payment for treatments because of concerns about profit, but apparently refuse to see how the government making cuts to budgets effectively causes the exact same situation.
The other interesting point, is that a poster believes that we need to reduce our military by half, and have a meager 4 aircraft carriers at the ready. While there is room for some cuts in the military, and efficiency can always be improved, such a drastic reduction of our forces would certainley signal a decline in our readiness and willingness to intervene in geo-political affairs that would cause instabilities not only with regards to the areas themselves, but the world wide economy. Having a large force at the ready is a deterrent and the only way I would support such drastic reductions in our military force, was if other western countries and allies were to increase their military readiness and willingness, to offset our own reduction and that there be a plan in place to keep in reserve vast amounts of war ready equipment that can be reinstated to active status overnight(effectively, not literally).
I believe those are the cuts you can expect in the future. The very healthcare promised to the American public will be under scrutiny for budgetary cuts, and reduction of our armed forces.
"Loyalty only matters when there's a hundred reasons not to be-" Gen. Mattis
IMO, if such cashflow from the federal government is to be preserved, offsetting measures should be adopted to pay for such expenditures. If they're not paid for, then they should not be extended. The longer-run costs (additional deficits, interest incurred on such deficits, long-term adverse macroeconomic impact from increasing structural budget deficits) to the nation, even if they are spread out among the population as a whole--outweigh the benefits.
I'm well aware of the political maneuvering that was attempted on that issue vis-a-vis the health care legislation and am relieved about the outcome, though I am concerned that it is temporary.it's what underlay reid's cynical attempt to slice off of obamacare and account instead against the national debt his quarter T doc fix
of course, the fix failed on the floor, 47 to 53
Last edited by donsutherland1; 11-14-09 at 08:35 AM.
doctors, the way i observe it, object to extreme cuts in their pay mandated from on high, as well as their being increasingly forced into these exchanges that schedule their pay at such piddly rates as medicare plus 5, for instance, which kent conrad and many, many others have declared repeatedly will destroy health care in their more rural districts and states
it's, like you say, a conundrum
and, yes, the half T of cuts to m and m used to keep cbo off baucus' back are never gonna happen
the whole thing is just an entire mess
reid seems to be scheduling health care to death
that is, he's not moving
no way it can be finished by state of the union
ie, big trouble
actually, lieberman and nelson have already declared, and others, like bayh, are known, as well
even mr reid and this white house are beginning to understand the meaning of 40 + 2
I really need to stop typing posts when I'm pissed. I leave letters and even whole words some times.
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The sheep in this country might fall for this absurd half-measure(even you can even call it a "half"), but I doubt the chinese are buying this, as well as anymore of our debt.