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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    if he does not skate it invalidates miranda and sets it up precedent for police to not have to read rights
    If he doesn't skate it invalidates all of the protections we, the people of this country now enjoy.... so what else is new about this administration?
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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    I believe the Obama apologists don't care about justice and they are so used to backing Obama as a way to continue hate and bash Bush they have lost all perspective on reality. They hae always been quick to call names because they lack the intellectual ability to converse intelligently based on either the facts or they can't understand basic morality issues.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I believe the Obama apologists don't care about justice and they are so used to backing Obama as a way to continue hate and bash Bush they have lost all perspective on reality. They hae always been quick to call names because they lack the intellectual ability to converse intelligently based on either the facts or they can't understand basic morality issues.
    I think they also have a real problem foreseeing the consequences of the actions they take.


    This could undermine our entire legal system, and all of the protections we have to ensure justice for the American citizen.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Not really. Holder is an intelligent guy - there's absolutely no way he thinks this process is designed to address the issues raised in that report.

    But hey, if you've uncovered something nobody else has found, why don't you show us the part of the Rand Report that argues that the prosecution of a handful of terrorists in Art. III courts will reduce terrorism?

    http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/...ND_MG741-1.pdf

    There's the whole thing. Let us know how it goes.

    I did not say the Rand Report made recommendations on how we try the terrorist. It says that our war on terror has been a failure due to our large military footprint and our killing of innocent civilians, which only fuels the the terrorists recruitment efforts.

    I referenced the Rand Report for comparison purposes because we were making the same mistake in our mistreatment of prisoners. If we ever expect to stop terrorism, we have to be more moral than the terrorists.


    Yea, and from now on, he'll just ship all our captured terrorists to Bagram instead, for which he's adopted the exact same position that the Bush Administration took as to Guantanamo.
    Not quite, he is bringing some of the terrorists to trial through our court system, and demanding reforms at Bagram, but they do not go far enough. I agree with you that Obama is too much of a hawk. He was just better than the alternative.
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    This article says it all! Every question asked and answered. So what is the right so worried about? Easy! That Obama might get it right publically and undeniably.
    Excellent article! Thanks!
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I believe the Obama apologists don't care about justice and they are so used to backing Obama as a way to continue hate and bash Bush they have lost all perspective on reality. They hae always been quick to call names because they lack the intellectual ability to converse intelligently based on either the facts or they can't understand basic morality issues.
    What's the basic moral issue at stake?
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    What's the basic moral issue at stake?
    You mean besides invading a country that never attacked us, killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, and torturing prisoners for 8 years without bringing them to trial?
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You mean besides invading a country that never attacked us, killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, and torturing prisoners for 8 years without bringing them to trial?
    I have to give you credit my far left wing friend.......You have moveon.org talking points down pat......To bad no one is buying that crap any more.
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    To bad no one is buying that crap any more.

    How exactly do you define no one?

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You mean besides invading a country that never attacked us, killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, and torturing prisoners for 8 years without bringing them to trial?


    Hmmm.....Was their attack on 9/11 Justified?


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