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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    That article is the kind of journalism i hate.Everyones an idiot except the guy writing.

    That is what you get from the liberal elite today. Either you fully agree, or you are just too damned stupid to understand the scope of the argument.


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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    I hope some of you accept this appology - sorry - I was wrong.

    I previously said that the choice to the Obama administration was up to them to go before a federal judge or a military tribunal - and because they hit civillians in NYC it did not necessitate a military tribunal - though I believe it is not a good choice, I believed the Obama administration rightfuly had that choice, and I figured what the heck, as long as they are found guilty and it doesn't become a trial against the former administration and our intelligence agencies - OK

    I got wrapped up in it being only about NYC because the trial is set to go there - and seeing the Twin Towers and it's occupants as civillian only.

    BUT - and I totally forgot all about it - again, sorry - they also hit the Pentagon on 9/11, and the Pentagon is all about our military - being housed with many military personnel who were directly affected by their actions.

    They hit a military target - therefore, they MUST be tried in a military tribunal.
    That took balls. thanx
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That is what you get from the liberal elite today. Either you fully agree, or you are just too damned stupid to understand the scope of the argument.


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    And the problem with this is????

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    They hit a military target - therefore, they MUST be tried in a military tribunal.
    Actually the Pentagon is a military target within the govt., so the govt. can decide where the trial is to be held. The exception would be any action entirely within the military. KSM is not military, no matter how anybody wants to redefine him as such.

    Also remember:
    A group of six radical Islamist[1] men plotting to stage an attack on the Fort Dix military base in New Jersey, United States, were arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) on May 8, 2007. They were subsequently convicted of planning an attack against U.S. soldiers. The alleged aim of the six men was said to be to "kill as many soldiers as possible".[2] Their trial began on October 20, 2008 and was prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey.[3] On December 22, 2008, the plotters were found guilty on charges of conspiracy to harm US military personnel.
    I don't recall the right wing up in arms about this! What no hysteria about terrorists attacks on NJ? No whining about diatribes that would bring down the govt! No carping about shaming the us military by taking it outside the military? Tsk, tsk, tsk.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    KSM IS NOT DUE A TRIAL, Well he wasn't til they brought his sorry ass onto American soil.


    He is not covered under the Geneva Conventions as a Combatant so we can either:
    A) Do what we're doing now and give him due process. >:C
    or
    2) Shoot him and string him up for all the other Extremists to see.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    KSM IS NOT DUE A TRIAL, Well he wasn't til they brought his sorry ass onto American soil.


    He is not covered under the Geneva Conventions as a Combatant so we can either:
    A) Do what we're doing now and give him due process. >:C
    or
    2) Shoot him and string him up for all the other Extremists to see.
    My bet is that there won't be very many new prisoners taken from this day forward.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    Actually the Pentagon is a military target within the govt., so the govt. can decide where the trial is to be held. The exception would be any action entirely within the military. KSM is not military, no matter how anybody wants to redefine him as such.

    Also remember:

    I don't recall the right wing up in arms about this! What no hysteria about terrorists attacks on NJ? No whining about diatribes that would bring down the govt! No carping about shaming the us military by taking it outside the military? Tsk, tsk, tsk.
    Granted, they are not U.S. military personnel, but they are military personnel - they are military proxy for Iran - you can bet your bottom dollar on it - Iran has been working their proxies since soon after 1979 when Khomeini overthrew the Shah, then overthrew our embassy in Iran, took the personnel there hostage, funded their proxies in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and you name it where their proxies have gone with their terrorist activities - look what they have done in Europe; Spain, London just to name a few - and here - they set up Hezbollah, Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad - it is my belief they set up Al Qadea - Iran's proxies are responsible for the bombing of our embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya; funded by Iran through Sudan - the attempt on the Twin Towers, the USS Cole, the leveling of the Twin Towers, 3 civillian jet airliners with civillians onboard, the Pentagon, and killing over two thousand innocent people on 9/11 - they have been at war with us since 1979 - Iran's rallying cry is: "Death to America". They are the principal supplier of weapons and training for the the Taliban and Al Quadea in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq.

    They are all proxies whom Iran uses to perpetrate their military activity - Iran is the puppeteer in all of this - and all of their proxy puppets are trained for what they do.

    They are at war with us - granted, they don't wear uniforms like us, but they trained to do the rotten deeds they do - everybody has seen clips of them training on TV - the training is what makes them soldiers, and their training has all been funded by Iran, one way or the other - therefore, no matter how anyone spins it, they are military - and on top of it they hit the Pentagon and killed 55 U.S. military personnel.

    The military must bring them before a military tribunal - the liberals can spin it all they want about their not being soldiers, but they can't spin it for the military personnel that they killed - if the government wants to try them before a judge, so be it - but they must also be brought before a military tribunal and answer for the 55 U.S. soldiers that they killed.

    The intent, as well as the act of killing 55 U.S. soldiers at the Pentagon, is what counts - they intended to strike a big blow at our military when they hit the Pentagon - therefore, the intent adds to why they MUST be tried in a military tribunal.
    Last edited by Tom Jones; 11-20-09 at 05:46 PM.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Hey when was ksm marandized.
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Hey when was ksm marandized.
    He wasn't.... that's one of the reasons I think he is going to skate.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    He wasn't.... that's one of the reasons I think he is going to skate.
    if he does not skate it invalidates miranda and sets it up precedent for police to not have to read rights
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