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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So you are suggesting the fix is in? That this is a show trial, and the outcome is predetermined?
    I did not see that in their statement. They are saying that there is sufficient evidence for a conviction.

    Do you doubt the evidence against the terrorists?
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So you are suggesting the fix is in? That this is a show trial, and the outcome is predetermined?
    And you are suggesting that the govt hasn't vetted this case with heavy duty lawyers, has plenty of evidence without bringing out "tainted" testimony, and that KSM won't absolutely love to confess his crimes to the world?

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I did not see that in their statement. They are saying that there is sufficient evidence for a conviction.

    Do you doubt the evidence against the terrorists?



    I doubt the confession or any subsequent evidence gets in, if it does, it sets precedent for your local pd to waterboard you.
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I doubt the confession or any subsequent evidence gets in, if it does, it sets precedent for your local pd to waterboard you.
    You miss the all important point that do not need the tortured info as evidence.
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    And you are suggesting that the govt hasn't vetted this case with heavy duty lawyers, has plenty of evidence without bringing out "tainted" testimony, and that KSM won't absolutely love to confess his crimes to the world?




    I don't think this administration is any better than a one move chess player.... This is a collosal **** up.


    how do you know what KSM wants to do? And if its true, why give him the platform?

    tell me what was wrong with the tribunals?



    oh and:


    One Juror Between Terrorist And Death - washingtonpost.com


    Only one juror stood between the death penalty and Zacarias Moussaoui and that juror frustrated his colleagues because he never explained his vote, according to the foreman of the jury that sentenced the al-Qaeda operative to life in prison last week.

    The foreman, a Northern Virginia math teacher, said in an interview that the panel voted 11 to 1, 10 to 2 and 10 to 2 in favor of the death penalty on three terrorism charges for which Moussaoui was eligible for execution. A unanimous vote on any one of them would have resulted in a death sentence.


    So tell me... how is this trial going to go?
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You miss the all important point that do not need the tortured info as evidence.



    speculation on your part.
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Apparently not
    Er...that's what is happening. Like, right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    Doesn't sound like due process to me
    It does to the Supreme Court.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_parte_Quirin]Ex parte Quirin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    and it's not a system you would allow yourself to be adjudicated under.
    I'm not an unlawful combatant, so I don't think that's relevant.
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    speculation on your part.
    And your fear mongering is fact?

    If there had not been sufficient evidence, they would not have brought them to trial.

    "This weekend, with developments on civilian and military trials for Guantanamo detainees, a secure prison facility to house some of them in the US and reforms to the military prison in Bagram, Afghanistan, the Administration showed significant progress toward a comprehensive plan that uses military and law enforcement tools to keep Americans safe. National security experts, military and prosecutors, and the people of Thomson, Illinois responded positively.

    But fringe conservatives offered an assault on America’s legal system while providing no legitimate solutions on how to deal with terror detainees aside from keeping Guantanamo open. Given that the facility has produced only three successful prosecutions while blackening the US reputation and becoming a prominent extremist recruiting tool, it is clear that the status quo is inadequate. But extreme conservatives responded with crass politicization that undermines the very institutions they say they want to protect."
    Conservatives Attack America?s Legal System | National Security Network
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Er...that's what is happening. Like, right now.



    It does to the Supreme Court.

    Ex parte Quirin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    I'm not an unlawful combatant, so I don't think that's relevant.
    The case you referred to was in 1942. I thought you were going to link to a current challenge by the Supreme court over the Justice Dept's current plans to try the terrorists.

    As far as being an enemy combatant. That is simply a term used incorrectly by the previous administration. As I showed before, that misnomer is not being applied by the current administration ~

    "WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a dramatic break with the Bush administration, the Justice Department on Friday announced it is doing away with the designation of "enemy combatant," which allowed the United States to hold suspected terrorists at length without criminal charges."
    U.S. reverses policy, drops 'enemy combatant' term - CNN.com
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    what was wrong with the military tribunals?
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