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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    This trial is a giant waste of time and money; money we do not have.
    It is not and yes we do! Hell we just spent 7 billion for 7,000 more Humvees in Afghanistan. We spent $79 million to see if the Moon has water!

    Just blindfold the ****er and shoot him in the head.
    You may want the World to see us as barbarians, but many of us don't.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, that's supposed to impress, who? You think the Muslims will hate us less because we gave these goofballs a fair trial?
    It's supposed to impress those who want America to get back to showing the world it lives up to it's values.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    What is truely amazing are people who do not see the extreme risk in this.

    We are going out of the military court and trying these Islamic Terrorists in the #1 target for terrorists in the United States.

    Islamic terrorists live for publicity and the Obama adminsitration has painted the world's largest target on the back of New York city which I am personally angry about since my sister lives there.

    He is putting millions of Americans in danger with no reason whatsoever. This could have been done in a military tribunal in Guantanamo Bay with little to no risk to American civilians.

    And lets not forget the extreme danger he is putting the judge and jury. Their lives will never be the same again.

    The Obama administration is now personally responsible for any Islamic terrorist attacks that occur during that show trial because he is unnecessarily putting people at risk for a show trial designed only to attack the Bush administration.
    Ah paranoia, the heart that beats inside every conservative!

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    stop it! You're being factual and logical!
    Two words unknown to the right wing.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I'm not gonna lie.

    This post Gitmo pic is a bit threatening.




    He could pass as a Sesame Street Character.
    Seems more like Gimli!

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    Two words unknown to the right wing.
    Islamic Terrorist

    Two words unknown to the left wing.
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    You mean due process of law? That's a basic part of even your value system.....isn't it?
    Hey Genius. Due process of law also allowed them to be tried in a military court.

    Miss that?

    You mean a fair an open trial in the very place where the crime took place?
    Yes. Its called a military court.

    You mean showing the world we've decided to go back to our basic values?

    Yes. Its called a military court.

    Yes this is really what the liberals want our country to look like.
    No you don't. You want to put politics ahead of keeping New York City more safe instead of keeping this guy at Guantanamo and being tried there, again perfectly legal and instead put political pot shots at the past administration and risk more American lives.

    I wouldn't be proud of that.
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Ok I'll simmer down. However, since you've made it your business to engage me let's have a comprehensive debate. What say you? The subject of this thread is the NY trial for the alleged 9/11 mastermind. What do you think about the decision to bring KSM and the other members of the Gitmo Five to the US District Court (SDNY) for trial? I'm interested in your conclusion on this subject and the reasons underlying your conclusion. Please state them. Thanks.
    I've already presented an argument against trying KSM in the criminal justice system. I think he should be summarily executed. The military should sell raffle tickets to the combat MOS's and whoever wins gets to shoot him; they would sell A LOT of tickets. Great propaganda victory for the troops.

    And all of this is totally justifiable under international and domestic law since neither apply to KSM, the notorious terrorist mastermind that planned 9/11.

    He does not deserve a trial.

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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    You mean due process of law? That's a basic part of even your value system.....isn't it?

    You mean a fair an open trial in the very place where the crime took place?

    You mean showing the world we've decided to go back to our basic values?

    Yes this is really what the liberals want our country to look like.
    Khalid Sheik Mohammad is a known terrorist that was captured by Pakistani intelligence. He is NOT entitled to Constitutional due process; those protections only apply to a specific set of people and a foreign terrorist mastermind is not one of them.
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    Re: New York trial for alleged 9/11 mastermind

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    It is not and yes we do!
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    Hell we just spent 7 billion for 7,000 more Humvees in Afghanistan. We spent $79 million to see if the Moon has water!
    Lets see.

    Humvees that save lives and help win wars of necessity vs. a trial that is totally unnecessary.

    Or...

    Seeing if the most crucial, life-sustaining element in the universe is on our nearest satellite vs. a trial that is totally unnecessary.

    Mmmmmmm, those are some good points you make there...

    You may want the World to see us as barbarians, but many of us don't.
    So, instead of pissing off some snooty Westerners you would rather extend Constitutional due process to the terrorist mastermind that planned 9/11?

    Why do Americans constantly feel the need to cater to the feelings of foreign countries? Do you actually think the French or the British or the Canadians give a DAMN about an American's opinion of their country?

    This trial will not show the Muslim world how just America is. It will just reinforce the notion that we are a weak populace with no stomach for protracted wars.

    Convince the American people that they can't win and they will quit fighting, just like in Vietnam. The Jihadists are learned students of history and brilliant strategists; they're simply counting on the useful idiots in America to win the war for them and Obama is playing right into their hands...

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