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    Re: Bush warns of threats to freedom, economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    That's only one of the many roles of government in the economic affairs of the Nation.
    No, tha's the only economic role of government. Government can't create wealth. So, there's it's useless, even self defeating for the government attempt to create wealth, because it can't happen.
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    Re: Bush warns of threats to freedom, economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, tha's the only economic role of government.
    The American people overwhelming reject that idea, bro.

    Government can't create wealth.
    Yes it can, bro. However, that's not the best way to do it.

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    Re: Bush warns of threats to freedom, economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    The American people overwhelming reject that idea, bro.
    And look at the trouble it's given us. We are no longer a creditor nation.

    Yes it can, bro. However, that's not the best way to do it.
    What wealth has government ever created? I mean a net positive.

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    Re: Bush warns of threats to freedom, economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    The American people overwhelming reject that idea, bro.
    Obviously, you haven't been paying attention lately.

    Yes it can, bro. However, that's not the best way to do it.
    Government can't generate profits. The only money they receive is from taxes...and, where do taxes come from????
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    Re: Bush warns of threats to freedom, economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Nice, maybe he should admit that his lack of oversight, regulation and transparency lead in part to the problem as well.
    Please, explain how lack of oversight, regulation, and transparency were the cause of the problem.

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    Re: Bush warns of threats to freedom, economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Please, explain how lack of oversight, regulation, and transparency were the cause of the problem.

    he can't, but the Libbos can't seem to understand that this isn't Bush's fault.
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    Re: Bush warns of threats to freedom, economic growth

    Bush was at the helm when the bailouts were being discussed. Even if he has this miraculous insight now, nothing he did towards the end of his Presidency indicated that he acted accordingly. Government expansion is a bipartisan issue and so are the bailouts. Trying to paint it as otherwise is just going to polarize America further and prevent economic solutions from being sought with realistic expectations.

    Bush is only partly right. Government intervention was needed to avoid imminent collapse, but that intervention did not come with repair of the broken system; it just came with financial handouts to sustain poor business practices. We're just going to see the same collapse within a few years and it will be worse. The sad thing is that I think most involved in politics will be too busy blaming the other side for the problems instead of admitting to collective faults in the system that everyone constructed.

    The bickering combined with economic problems has the potential to be the end of the Republic as we know it.

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    Re: Bush warns of threats to freedom, economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    What wealth has government ever created?
    The Panama Canal and The Hoover Dam.

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    Re: Bush warns of threats to freedom, economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    And look at the trouble it's given us. We are no longer a creditor nation.
    Explain how rejecting the view that the role of the government in economic matters should be more than just creating an environment where business can thrive, caused us to be a debtor nation?

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    Re: Bush warns of threats to freedom, economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Explain how rejecting the view that the role of the government in economic matters should be more than just creating an environment where business can thrive, caused us to be a debtor nation?
    It's pretty easy to see. Intervening in the economy takes money. Giving poor people money costs money.

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