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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Well I wasn't born for half of those last 4, but I've read about it.
    My guess is that is why your perspective is skewed.
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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Voting for the privileged only.
    Voting for those who know their political asshole from a hole in the ground.

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    Hmmm.........I wonder why the founders never thought of that. Oh, they tell me a person used to have to own property, and blacks and women could not vote. Not smart enough don't you know. I guess they did think of it! LOL!
    First of all, Americans back then EARNED their right to vote more than most these days. They fought and bled for their rights. Those minority groups pushed the bounds of what was acceptable and they worked their asses off. They were, for the most part, proud of their country.

    And once again, it's not targeting specific groups of people. Do driving tests discriminate between different ethnicities or women? No. These tests would not either. Everyone can vote so long as they can be responsible with their voting. And the questions would be simple enough for anyone who paid attention in Civics class to get. Like who is the current President, name the major Candidates running for each party, questions about naturalization, some American History to add that zing of excitement...Nothing more taxing or unfair than a driving test. It can be done.

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    My guess is that is why your perspective is skewed.
    I can read books and research History and Civics. And it's a shame that I can see these things and others who have lived this long cannot.

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Voting for those who know their political asshole from a hole in the ground.

    And eliminate the conservative party from voting? I don't think they will go for it. LOL!

    First of all, Americans back then EARNED their right to vote more than most these days. They fought and bled for their rights. Those minority groups pushed the bounds of what was acceptable and they worked their asses off. They were, for the most part, proud of their country.

    LOL! Right, the blacks and women did nothing did they????

    And once again, it's not targeting specific groups of people. Do driving tests discriminate between different ethnicities or women?
    Driving is not a right.
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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I can read books and research History and Civics. And it's a shame that I can see these things and others who have lived this long cannot.
    Obviously you do not if you think the American public has only recently been screwed up in their priorities. That is the way its been for most of our county's history.
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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Obviously you do not if you think the American public has only recently been screwed up in their priorities. That is the way its been for most of our county's history.
    Ignorance and apathy have gotten increasingly worse since the Post-Vietnam War era. Whereas before times of trouble served to, even if only in the end, bring us together, it seems we're splitting apart more and more and not trying to make any concessions to come back together. The most together I've seen this country in my lifetime was the year following 9-11. And even the togetherness and patriotism resurgence from that didn't even last that long.

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And eliminate the conservative party from voting? I don't think they will go for it. LOL!
    More like eliminate the ignorant morons who follow either party blindly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Epic Dude
    Those minority groups pushed the bounds of what was acceptable and they worked their asses off. They were, for the most part, proud of their country.
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    LOL! Right, the blacks and women did nothing did they????
    You're just trying to find points in my posts to argue. Unless you improperly worded sarcasm.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Driving is not a right.
    I didn't say it was, I know it's a privilege. One that if you abuse it, you can hurt someone other than yourself.

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Ignorance and apathy have gotten increasingly worse since the Post-Vietnam War era. Whereas before times of trouble served to, even if only in the end, bring us together, it seems we're splitting apart more and more and not trying to make any concessions to come back together. The most together I've seen this country in my lifetime was the year following 9-11. And even the togetherness and patriotism resurgence from that didn't even last that long.
    Its same ignorance and apathy I have witnessed for the last 4 decades. We learned nothing apparently from Vietnam. The "togetherness" you observed following 9/11 was squandered on our "war on terror." We blew our chance for real change in the world when everyone supported us in response to the terrorist attacks. We could have united the people against this kind of violence. Instead we chose to blindly strike out and killed more innocent people that were killed here. And so the cycle continues...... at least for those of us that have been around to witness it.
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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its same ignorance and apathy I have witnessed for the last 4 decades. We learned nothing apparently from Vietnam. The "togetherness" you observed following 9/11 was squandered on our "war on terror." We blew our chance for real change in the world when everyone supported us in response to the terrorist attacks. We could have united the people against this kind of violence. Instead we chose to blindly strike out and killed more innocent people that were killed here. And so the cycle continues...... at least for those of us that have been around to witness it.
    This is exactly right. It's like gang wars: retaliate, retaliate, retaliate until you don't know why you're doing it anymore. The Bush's knee jerk reaction to this in terms of Iraq was insane and we should have already been out of Afghanistan. What disgusts me about the whole issue issue is conservatives are willing to pour gobs of money into these wars which do us no good in the long run but fight against things like health care which would help the people of this nation at home. God forbid we take care of our own or bolster our infrastructure, which is falling apart. I went over a large bridge last week driving to New Orleans and the only thing I could think was, "please don't fail."
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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