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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    What in the **** does this even mean????


    Whatever, dude! We all know your deal, my man.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Anyone that fought against our invasion we called terrorists.

    Iraq or Afghanistan freedom fighters = terrorists

    This way we could say we killed more terrorists and less civilians.
    Well, by all means...the 9/11 terrorists were just misunderstood and merely freedom fighters themselves. Those Tali-Ban supporters? Merely minding their own business. The unlimited supply of religious fanatics that have joined the fight (on their territory; not ours)? Merely misguided and in need of a good hug.

    How dare we ever have an enemy. I love how people attempt to philosophize the problem away.

    The vast majority of everybody killed by American hands has been the enemy. The vast majority of slaughtered civilians were murdered by their fellow Muslim. But the real magic of the Middle East is how a civilian and a militant look exactly the same. Uniforms no longer decide who gets killed anymore. Collaberation, involvement, and assistance does. You may see a dead civilian on TV. The troop on the ground or higher intel may not.
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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Well, by all means...the 9/11 terrorists were just misunderstood and merely freedom fighters themselves. Those Tali-Ban supporters? Merely minding their own business. The unlimited supply of religious fanatics that have joined the fight (on their territory; not ours)? Merely misguided and in need of a good hug.

    How dare we ever have an enemy. I love how people attempt to philosophize the problem away.
    You already know that it's all America's fault, anyway.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Whatever, dude! We all know your deal, my man.
    So in other words even you can't interpret what you're saying. Fair enough. And what did I spin exactly? Do you know what the term actually means?

    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Gunny, Gunny, Gunny...you're better than this.

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Well, by all means...the 9/11 terrorists were just misunderstood and merely freedom fighters themselves. Those Tali-Ban supporters? Merely minding their own business. The unlimited supply of religious fanatics that have joined the fight (on their territory; not ours)? Merely misguided and in need of a good hug.
    Why do you feel the need to completely mischaracterize your opponents argument? Nobody, not a single person has gotten anywhere close to this kind of position.

    How dare we ever have an enemy. I love how people attempt to philosophize the problem away.
    Identify one quote in this thread where anyone tried to do that.
    The vast majority of everybody killed by American hands has been the enemy. The vast majority of slaughtered civilians were murdered by their fellow Muslim.
    Agreed.

    But the real magic of the Middle East is how a civilian and a militant look exactly the same. Uniforms no longer decide who gets killed anymore. Collaberation, involvement, and assistance does. You may see a dead civilian on TV. The troop on the ground or higher intel may not.
    You make a very good point.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You already know that it's all America's fault, anyway.
    No, it's all your fault apdst. It's all your fault.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You already know that it's all America's fault, anyway.
    Everything is the fault of the ol' Evil Empire, my man. Don't you listen to all the cool music the socialist kids are listening too? With their Che shirts and angry music, fightin' the man!!!

    Man. That reminds me, I read Guerrilla Warfare and got myself a Che shirt in 9th grade...then I caught all this **** for it from my teachers until I explained why I wore the shirt...then they told me why the shirts were even made and it amazed me that people would idolize him just because he was "socialist" (he was Marxist) and they thought it was sticking it to the man when they wore it. Some kids...



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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Trying to get people to see the difference between local rebels against our occupation and terrorists. A very important distinction.

    When I say bad guys I am speaking in moral terms.
    I think you can defend yourself so don't be afraid of me. I'm no one of consequence.

    Having said that I have two questions. First, are you an American citizen? Second, if withdrawal isn't chosen by Obama, would you like to see American forces defeated or victorious?

    I'll understand if you choose not to respond. Thanks.

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Uniforms no longer decide who gets killed anymore. Collaberation, involvement, and assistance does. You may see a dead civilian on TV. The troop on the ground or higher intel may not.
    Which means, under the Geneva Conventions, we can treat them exactly as they treat us, or worse. No laws of War when it's not conventional warfare.

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    Re: Paratrooper's Mom Begs Obama: 'End It'

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    The vast majority of everybody killed by American hands has been the enemy.

    The enemy being defined as anyone that fought against our occupation of countries that never attacked us.


    But the real magic of the Middle East is how a civilian and a militant look exactly the same. Uniforms no longer decide who gets killed anymore.
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