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Mormon Support of Gay Rights Statute Draws Praise

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/us/12utah.html

The Mormon Church has been a target of vituperation by some gay rights groups because of its active opposition to same-sex marriage. But on Wednesday, the church was being praised by gay rights activists in Salt Lake City, citadel of the Mormon world, for its open support of a local ordinance banning discrimination against gay men and lesbians in housing and employment.

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“It’s the most progressive and inclusive statement that the church has made on these issues,” said Will Carlson, the manager of public policy at Equality Utah, the state’s largest gay rights group. “What they’ve said here is huge, in protecting residents in other municipalities, and statewide.”

In its statement backing the ordinance, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said that while it remained “unequivocally committed to defending the bedrock foundation of marriage between a man and a woman,” the question of how people were treated on the job and in finding places to live were matters of fairness that did not have anything to do with marriage.

“Across America and around the world, diverse communities such as ours are wrestling with complex social and moral questions,” Michael R. Otterson, a church spokesman, said in a statement to the City Council. “The issues before you tonight are the right of people to have a roof over their heads and the right to work without being discriminated against.”

Good to see this news. This should remind people to think twice before they try to label an entire religion as being bigoted based on its stance on one particular facet of an issue.
 
Good to see this news. This should remind people to think twice before they try to label an entire religion as being bigoted based on its stance on one particular facet of an issue.

Does that include Islam?
 
OK, I stand corrected. I claim ignorance. I knew nothing about what their "magic underwear" meant. :mrgreen:

I have heard of this magic underwear as you call it. Its primarily worn by women and by some unexplainable force it attracts godlike amounts of single dollar bills. :mrgreen:
 
OK, just checking...cause ya know...being bigoted against a religion that may very well be out to convert or kill you might be a legitimate response.

I don't think any religion is out to convert or kill anyone, though individual members of that religion may well be. In such a case, I'd feel free to label those individuals as what I believed them to be.
 
Never understood why Mormons got such a bad rap after the whole Prop 8 disaster. The ones I met at least live by a live and let live philosophy.
You've never seen those guys in white shirts and ties who come door to door?
 
You've never seen those guys in white shirts and ties who come door to door?

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.


Wait, that's postal workers....
 
I don't think any religion is out to convert or kill anyone, though individual members of that religion may well be. In such a case, I'd feel free to label those individuals as what I believed them to be.

Seriously. Christianity didn't magically become out to "convert or kill" during the crusades and the inquisition, it was the people USING the religion to do that. People will go "That was hundreds of years ago" but that doesn't change the fact of the matter that the religion of Christianity then is the religion of Christianity of now, just administered by different people. So you can't blame the people on Christianitys parts but blame the religion on Islams part.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/us/12utah.html



Good to see this news. This should remind people to think twice before they try to label an entire religion as being bigoted based on its stance on one particular facet of an issue.
the mormom church, and every other church, has every right to deny same sex marriage, without being called bigots.

that's why all marriage outside a church should be deemed civil marriage, and gays should be able to avail themselves of that option.
 
Never understood why Mormons got such a bad rap after the whole Prop 8 disaster. The ones I met at least live by a live and let live philosophy.

I take it you don't remember their involvement in fighting against the ERA? Or, their racist stance on people of color prior to 1976?

One thing that is cool about the LDS church, though, they are VERY responsive to negative public opinion. They can be shifted, just like they were on the civil rights issue. All it takes is a large public backlash and new revelation comes down from on high.
 
LDS missionaries dress in white shirts and ties. Two of them helped me move a sofa. I didn't convert, but we had a pleasant exchange and I support what they're doing as right for them.
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Nah, I used to get Jehovah's Witnesses at my door (but they'd usually come as couples with children dressed in normal clothes). I also got a couple of Mormons at least once (and they looked pretty much like the guys in the picture).
 
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I see SLC is catching up with the times, in which case I don't see why the Mormons would try to stop it. They are, however, opponents to gay marriage as evidenced by their large cross-state interference in Prop 8, and thus we cannot give them full credit. They are still against equal marriage opportunity and gay couples adopting children.
 
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Nah, I used to get Jehovah's Witnesses at my door (but they'd usually come as couples with children dressed in normal clothes). I also got a couple of Mormons at least once (and they looked pretty much like the guys in the picture).

I hate to sound mean but Jehovah's Witnesses sometimes give me the creeps.
 
OK, I stand corrected. I claim ignorance. I knew nothing about what their "magic underwear" meant. :mrgreen:
You're the only one around here that needs magic underwear.
 
I see SLC is catching up with the times, in which case I don't see why the Mormons would try to stop it. They are, however, opponents to gay marriage as evidenced by their large cross-state interference in Prop 8, and thus we cannot give them full credit. They are still against equal marriage opportunity and gay couples adopting children.

And they are right.
So why is it that we cannot just let this go and work on far more important things ?
 
You're the only one around here that needs magic underwear.

How do YOU know? You have been sneaking into my home in the middle of the night, checking out my underwear drawer again?

Creeeeepy!! :mrgreen:
 
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How do YOU know? You have been sneaking into my home in the middle of the night, checking out my underwear drawer again?

Creeeeepy!! :mrgreen:

He must be:

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And they are right.
So why is it that we cannot just let this go and work on far more important things ?

You are in agreement then that their support of anti-discrimination laws is no large feat to write home about. Thanks.

And in the so-called free world, there is no civil cause greater than equality.
 
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