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    Re: Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    IMO, I think the US needs to create a foreign legion, a copy of the French Foreign Legion. The Blackwater types can join that unit and do their thing.
    What's the FFL do that makes them special? I gather that they would allow non-French nationals to serve france and gain citizenship. The US services already does this, however. So what would be the missions of the AFL?

    The reason I am so curious is that I had read The Pentagon's New Map (The Pentagon's New Map - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) several years ago and in it Thomas Barnett splits military force into two groups, one for kinetic ops, so called "Leviathan" force, and the other for reconstruction and nation building, the so called "SysAdmin" force. It sounds like the AFL is kinda like this SysAdmin force.

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    Re: Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Bush gave the security contract to Blackwater because Eric Prince was a "Christian", and Bush trusted him. No vetting, no investigation, just a gut decision, and now we are left with this. Just one more legacy of the worst president America will ever have.



    What orifice did you pull that out of?


    You do realize that Clinton gave Blackwater its first contract in 1997 right?


    It's funny too... Xe or Blackwater is still employed by the DoD.... yet no one has said nary a word about it to Obama.... hypocrites.
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    Re: Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What orifice did you pull that out of?


    You do realize that Clinton gave Blackwater its first contract in 1997 right?


    It's funny too... Xe or Blackwater is still employed by the DoD.... yet no one has said nary a word about it to Obama.... hypocrites.

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    Re: Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    The reason he can't hear us is because he has been firing his gun too close to his ears. Now he's deaf.

    Anyways, it is a horrible idea to trust mercenaries. They are only in it for the money. There is no honor, loyalty, or sense of duty. They are just paid murderers.

    The fact that Obama has not ended the Blackwater contracts simply proves that he's not a socialist - he's not concerned with fairness or equality.
    He's only concerned with lining the pockets of the rich.
    He's a corporatist - a big-government capitalist.

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    Re: Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    The reason he can't hear us is because he has been firing his gun too close to his ears. Now he's deaf.

    Anyways, it is a horrible idea to trust mercenaries. They are only in it for the money. There is no honor, loyalty, or sense of duty. They are just paid murderers.

    The fact that Obama has not ended the Blackwater contracts simply proves that he's not a socialist - he's not concerned with fairness or equality.
    He's only concerned with lining the pockets of the rich.
    He's a corporatist - a big-government capitalist.
    Please see this post:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058380498


    P.S. Don't talk **** about Mercenaries. Some of the most honorable and loyal fighters throughout History were mercenaries.

    For Example:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangian#Varangian_Guard

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walloon_Guards[/ame]


    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard[/ame]
    Last edited by EpicDude86; 11-21-09 at 04:30 PM.

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    Re: Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    P.S. Don't talk **** about Mercenaries. Some of the most honorable and loyal fighters throughout History were mercenaries.
    You could get any convicted rapist/serial-murderer psychopath to be loyal and honorable if you paid him a bunch of cash for being so.

    But miss a paycheck...


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    Re: Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    You could get any convicted rapist/serial-murderer psychopath to be loyal and honorable if you paid him a bunch of cash for being so.

    But miss a paycheck...

    So now you're comparing Mercenaries to felons and criminals? Real nice. Reeaall nice.

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    Re: Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    So now you're comparing Mercenaries to felons and criminals? Real nice. Reeaall nice.
    I don't have much sympathy for people that kill for money. If those mercenaries were "loyal and honorable" they should join the regular army and endure the hellish conditions and mediocre pay that any good soldier has to endure.

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    Re: Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    I don't have much sympathy for people that kill for money. If those mercenaries were "loyal and honorable" they should join the regular army and endure the hellish conditions and mediocre pay that any good soldier has to endure.
    Guess where most of them came from, Captain Noblecause.

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    Re: Blackwater Said to Pursue Bribes to Iraq After 17 Died

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Guess where most of them came from, Captain Noblecause.
    And why did they leave the regular army?

    Because they're in it (war) for the money. They want the cash and the bling-bling and the luxury.

    Regular army soldiers get paid a decent salary. It is not grand, but it is the national average.

    (around $40,000 a year)

    That gives about $3000 a month.

    They also get free healthcare, free college, free housing, and discounts at hundreds of businesses.

    Are mercenaries any better than soldiers at fighting? No.

    If the records are correct from what we've seen in Iraq, Blackwater/Xe is actually incompetent compared to the real army.

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