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    Re: D.C. Sniper John Allen Muhammad Is Executed in Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    What are you talking about?
    No....what are you talking about?

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    Re: D.C. Sniper John Allen Muhammad Is Executed in Virginia

    A Stanford University study revealed "that killers of Whites (whether the killers are black or white) are more likely to get sentenced to death than killers of black people (whether the killers are black or white). But Blacks who kill Whites were less likely to receive death sentences than were Whites who killed Whites."

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    Re: D.C. Sniper John Allen Muhammad Is Executed in Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    A Stanford University study revealed "that killers of Whites (whether the killers are black or white) are more likely to get sentenced to death than killers of black people (whether the killers are black or white). But Blacks who kill Whites were less likely to receive death sentences than were Whites who killed Whites."

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    So you consider those two things to be arguments in favor of the position that the death penalty is fairly applied?

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    Re: D.C. Sniper John Allen Muhammad Is Executed in Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    So you consider those two things to be arguments in favor of the position that the death penalty is fairly applied?
    I do, killers are killed, no matter the color of their skin.

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    Re: D.C. Sniper John Allen Muhammad Is Executed in Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    I do, killers are killed, no matter the color of their skin.
    You just said the opposite. You said killers of white people get the death penalty more often than killers of black people and that white killers of white people get the death penalty more than black killers of white people... Now you're reversing your position to argue that it is applied without regard to the color of somebody's skin?

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    Re: D.C. Sniper John Allen Muhammad Is Executed in Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i just wonder why you care. it's what they are passionate about, and hurts who?
    People like that make everyone else who is into those things look bad. Its like how Peta and A.L.F. makes the animal rights activist look like morons or nuts or how code pink and Berkly California makes anti-war nuts look like anti-military and anti-American.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: D.C. Sniper John Allen Muhammad Is Executed in Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    So you consider those two things to be arguments in favor of the position that the death penalty is fairly applied?
    Regardless of how you look at these crap studies, It is fairly applied. But as always someone has to be Politically Correct and find out if we're sentences just as many black people as white people to serve the same sentences...Problem with that is, the amount of offenders are disproportionate. But that in itself isn't a Politically Correct enough answer so there MUST be a disproportionate amount of arrest of black people than white people for crimes. And the PC cycle perpetuates itself...And people wonder why we're still very culturally charged and divided...

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    Re: D.C. Sniper John Allen Muhammad Is Executed in Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    People like that make everyone else who is into those things look bad. Its like how Peta and A.L.F. makes the animal rights activist look like morons or nuts or how code pink and Berkly California makes anti-war nuts look like anti-military and anti-American.
    Did someone say Code Pink?

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    Re: D.C. Sniper John Allen Muhammad Is Executed in Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Regardless of how you look at these crap studies, It is fairly applied.
    On what evidence do you draw that conclusion?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    But as always someone has to be Politically Correct and find out if we're sentences just as many black people as white people to serve the same sentences...Problem with that is, the amount of offenders are disproportionate. But that in itself isn't a Politically Correct enough answer so there MUST be a disproportionate amount of arrest of black people than white people for crimes. And the PC cycle perpetuates itself...And people wonder why we're still very culturally charged and divided...
    No, no, I'm not saying "more black people get the death penalty", I'm saying a much higher percentage of black people convicted of murder get the death penalty.

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    Re: D.C. Sniper John Allen Muhammad Is Executed in Virginia

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    On what evidence do you draw that conclusion?
    You can't expect to do a "fair" and "balanced" scientific study if one of your dependent variables is race, especially in dealing with prison population and the death penalty, and which race did the perpetrating and which was the victim.

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    No, no, I'm not saying "more black people get the death penalty", I'm saying a much higher percentage of black people convicted of murder get the death penalty.
    I know you're not saying more black people do. Well there's a reason for that and it's because blacks are disproportionately represented in the system. Not because they're black but because that's just who is committing more crimes. **** happens and sometimes we don't like how it looks. It's lopsided due to inner-city violence and a different culture among many black communities. These factors are just a few though that is attributed to higher rates of these crimes, and ultimately higher arrest rates. Sad but true. Then again, if you go to an area where there isn't a large black population and you'll find a ton of non-black ethnicity in prison. Imagine that. You have to look at populations vs prison populations, who's being sent where, what kind of 'peers' were on their jury and a slew of other minuscule seeming details to really find the truth...and that truth is: the system works as best as a broken system can.
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