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    Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Sorce: Fox News
    Date: Nov. 10, 2009

    The Army psychiatrist suspected of killing 13 people at Fort Hood reportedly warned senior Army physicians in 2007 that the military should allow Muslim soldiers to be released as conscientious objectors instead of fighting in wars to avoid "adverse events.

    Please take the time to read the part of this article where Lt. Col. Val Finnell, a former classmate of Nidal Hasan at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. in 2007 - 2008. comments on Hasan.

    Finnell recalled Hasan telling his classmates and professors, "I'm a Muslim first and I hold the Shariah, the Islamic Law, before the United States Constitution."
    In regards to the above quote. Major Hasan took an oath when he bacame an officer in the US Army. Here is the text of that oath.

    United States Uniformed Services Oath of Office
    I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

    I know we are looking at this in retrospect but it seems that with all the red flags that this jihadist attack could have been avoided. The FBI droped the ball as well as the army. We have been conditioned not to offend. PC was just an annoyence prior to this incident. Now we are dying as a result of political corectness and a fear of being labled a bigot/islamophobe.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Well hell,


    He said he was a ticking timebomb in his environmental powerpoint presentation.....Duh.


    This guy was buried in red flags. No one bothered to pick one up.
    Thank you

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Well hell,


    He said he was a ticking timebomb in his environmental powerpoint presentation.....Duh.


    This guy was buried in red flags. No one bothered to pick one up.
    Thats right, no one botherd to pick one up out of fear they would be labled an Islmophobe. Thats why I conclude that political correctness is killing American soldiers.
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Where are you who claim he is not a jihadist now? Whats that I hear in the dead of night. A chirping sound, thats it, the sound of crickets chirping. Well lets all pray that he gets a quick military trial and is exicuted by firing squad before Christmas.

    Nidal Hasan soon to be another dead jihadist corps, don't forget to wrap his body in a shroud soaked with swines blood!
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    mad Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    With every piece of information that comes to light we get a better picture of the massive disasters of PC and diversity have brought us. I'm not going to point out whose fault it is by pointing a finger at one group or another because it's all our fault for allowing those who push this garbage on us and we take it.
    Well it's time to take this country back from the do goody two shoes who feel like this PC BS is good for us. Well damn it it gets people killed and has caused education to create a system that rewards failure. It's all tied together and it's wrecking the whole Country.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    The guy was a nutcase. Now, if you want to label him a terrorist nutcase, fine. We all agree, and almost everyone - Muslims included - would work together to shut idiots like this down.

    Where we apparently part ways is what is meant by "being PC". You wanna red flag some Islamic dude who says we should blow up a few buildings to spread Allah's message, I agree. But I get the impression that those of you crying the "being PC" message want to go far beyond that. I get the impression that you believe ALL Muslims are pretty much going to blow up something in the name of their god, and we should have no problem stereotyping them as such. In fact, I get the impression that some of you folks who are all anti-Muslim would be a lot more comfortable if we started taking things a lot further, like not allowing Muslims in the military to begin with.

    So, maybe you can clear the air. Be the spokesman for the anti-PC crowd and let those of us pro-PC folks know exactly what you're looking for.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    The guy was a nutcase. Now, if you want to label him a terrorist nutcase, fine. We all agree, and almost everyone - Muslims included - would work together to shut idiots like this down.

    Where we apparently part ways is what is meant by "being PC". You wanna red flag some Islamic dude who says we should blow up a few buildings to spread Allah's message, I agree. But I get the impression that those of you crying the "being PC" message want to go far beyond that. I get the impression that you believe ALL Muslims are pretty much going to blow up something in the name of their god, and we should have no problem stereotyping them as such. In fact, I get the impression that some of you folks who are all anti-Muslim would be a lot more comfortable if we started taking things a lot further, like not allowing Muslims in the military to begin with.

    So, maybe you can clear the air. Be the spokesman for the anti-PC crowd and let those of us pro-PC folks know exactly what you're looking for.
    Your impression is wrong. Im looking for people to grow a spine and do the right thing even if someone may get offended. Americans including many of our armed forces are putting there lifes on the line to protect us. We owe it to them to stand strong and call things what they are. Don't be afraid to offend, it might save lifes. And besides if it offends someone that you are pointing out a red flag then maybe they are worthy of observation as well.
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Your impression is wrong. Im looking for people to grow a spine and do the right thing even if someone may get offended. Americans including many of our armed forces are putting there lifes on the line to protect us. We owe it to them to stand strong and call things what they are. Don't be afraid to offend, it might save lifes. And besides if it offends someone that you are pointing out a red flag then maybe they are worthy of observation as well.
    And yet, you've told me nothing about what it is specifically that you actually want here. Do you want to do more thorough background checks on everyone? That aint being anti-PC. What about highlighting that this was a pretty bad mistake, and there's gonna be some pretty serious accountability? That aint being anti-PC, either. So, where does this whole anti-PC business come in here? Is there something specific in those news wires where an official said that we don't do that against Muslims because it just aint PC? Because I didn't read that in any of the news. Nor did I read that we didn't do it because we'd be afraid to offend. To be honest, that seems to be nothing but speculation with a partisan slant to it.

    So again I ask what is that you want in situations like this. Where do you think us pro-PC folks can help you out here?
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    The guy was a nutcase. Now, if you want to label him a terrorist nutcase, fine. We all agree, and almost everyone - Muslims included - would work together to shut idiots like this down.

    Where we apparently part ways is what is meant by "being PC". You wanna red flag some Islamic dude who says we should blow up a few buildings to spread Allah's message, I agree. But I get the impression that those of you crying the "being PC" message want to go far beyond that. I get the impression that you believe ALL Muslims are pretty much going to blow up something in the name of their god, and we should have no problem stereotyping them as such. In fact, I get the impression that some of you folks who are all anti-Muslim would be a lot more comfortable if we started taking things a lot further, like not allowing Muslims in the military to begin with.

    So, maybe you can clear the air. Be the spokesman for the anti-PC crowd and let those of us pro-PC folks know exactly what you're looking for.
    I see it as just as dangerous to extrapolate what is actually said into what you think some of us might have said could be as big a mistake as the thinking you describe. I think most realize that all Muslims are not bad people as we realize all Blacks, and Hispanics are not gang bangers and all Asians are not geniuses and it's dangerous to stereo type any entire group because of the actions of one.
    However the fear of upsetting anyone because there are legitimate questions being raised because of demonstrated behavior is ludicrous at best, and seems to be what happened hear. i heard a dumb ass General say he didn't want to see the diversity in the Military suffer because of this one indecent. Are you (expletive deleted) kidding me. What diversity or PC position makes ignoring obvious issues that should disqualify anyone from service regardless of skin color, religion, or sexual preference or any other damn reason are justification for what was allowed to happen in this case. This BS pisses me off to the max and I am not easily made this up set. I always believed the Military had standards and once established you do do not make exceptions or deviate from them. To do so is to invite problems as we have seen.
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Political Correctness made early attempts to diffuse this guy seem more dangerous to a person and their career than letting it go on.

    There is clearly a line with Political Correctness. A line where "protecting feelings" and preventing "Social Injustice" stops and leaving ourselves vulnerable not only to our enemies but ourselves begins.

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