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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Conclusions supported by facts we know.

    I'll take that over blind theory any day
    Hmm, guess based on incomplete data, or keeping an open mind and waiting for the investigation to complete...I think I will take the wait for complete information any day.
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And what you keep missing is...

    IF HE DIDNT WANT TO JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE SUGGESTED A CAUSE AT ALL

    Until you get that, there is nothing more to say.
    He suggested many possible causes. Are you going to dismiss that those are not possible factors in what happened? Is it fun being obtuse?

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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No one has said that.
    I see that now from the quote you provided. Sorry I had not read the OP article.

    I still think that there's cracking under stress resulting in getting angry and perhaps being violent along the lines of getting into a fight. Then there is the kind Hasan exhibited, becoming a mass murderer. It seems as if this was planned. There were extremist ideological influences. This was more than simply cracking under stress.
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    and what you keep missing is...

    if he didnt want to jump to conclusions he should never have suggested a cause at all

    until you get that, there is nothing more to say.
    he did not suggest a cause, he offered possibilities
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Opinions? While it's clear there isn't enough data to make either an informed guess not a politically correct hypothesis, I have created this not to scale diagram to assist you. Hopefully. Read the disclaimer btw.

    How dare you base your conclusions with facts about this man's actions and testimony from others!

    Where is your ability to come up with blind theories without evidence!? Come on man!
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    he did not suggest a cause, he offered possibilities
    Yes. We have to understand what "is" is right? Talk about parsing...
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Yes. We have to understand what "is" is right? Talk about parsing...
    Yeah because that's totally the same.

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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Yes. We have to understand what "is" is right? Talk about parsing...
    He offered, just in the short clip you linked, two possible causes(stress and a conspiracy). This is not me trying to find a possible way to take his words wrong, it's you.
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is probably what it will turn out to be. The most any one is saying that I have seen is it is too early to jump to conclusions.
    No, it's not! Follow along please:

    Major Hasan was a devout Muslim.
    He has been described as devout and discreet. A local imam told the Washington Post that he attended daily prayers at a mosque when he worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington DC.
    BBC NEWS | Americas | Profile: Major Nidal Malik Hasan

    Major Hasan believed it was right for Muslims, no their duty to kill Americans
    The young doctor responded. ďThatís not a correct interpretation. Jihad means holy war. When your religion isnít safe, you have to fight for it. If someone attacks you, you must fight them. That is jihad. You can kill someone who is harming you.Ē
    Inside the Gunman's Mosque - The Daily Beast

    Major Hasan felt the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were wars on Islam. And that he was a muslim first, American second.
    Finnell says he got to know Hasan in an environmental health class. At the end of the class, students gave presentations. Finnell says other classmates wrote on subjects such as dry cleaning chemicals and mold in homes, but Hasan's topic was whether the war against terror was "a war against Islam." Finnell described Hasan as a "vociferous opponent" of the terror war.

    Finnell says Hasan told classmates he was "a Muslim first and an American second."
    Hasan Reportedly Felt U.S. Attacked Islam - CBS News

    Those dots are quite clear. And only the willingly blind refuse to see this is what drove him, not PTSD or any other pyscobabble.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He offered, just in the short clip you linked, two possible causes(stress and a conspiracy). This is not me trying to find a possible way to take his words wrong, it's you.
    Neither of which is supported at all with any evidence yet he offers only those up and ignores the one actually supported with evidence.

    Thats the entire point.
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