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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Because there is only so many hours in a day and he is probably busy.
    Then I'll judge him on the only cause he presented in that press conference and question why he ignored the only one with evidence to support it.
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    As you very well know, its a video

    Its a legitimate news source and I put the title in the title of the thread as indicated in the rules.
    The full transcript of the video is included in text on the page you link to, easy to follow the rules

    That is a lie.

    He suggests stress as the cause

    I quote:

    and I think everybody understands how outstanding the young men and women in uniform are under the most severe stress -- there are going to be instances in which an individual cracks.

    So please stop pretending he doesn't offer an explanation when he clearly does.
    He offers a possibility, in fact, he offers a couple possibilities. He then says that we do not know.



    Then name them. If you want to continue this fantasy, name the other "scenarios" he lists besides stress. Go ahead.
    From his comments, as I have quoted before: "or is it some larger set of actors"...hey look, he offers the suggestion that it was a plot.

    Wrong again. He only mentions stress as a possible cause which I just quoted.
    See above.



    [/quote]And you are spitting on the deaths of these soldiers by trying to excuse the president from suggesting a cause without evidence and ignoring the cause that has a mountain of evidence behind it.[/QUOTE]

    I am a liberal. I have been told I spit on the troops all my life, even when I was one of the troops. You ain't gunna hurt my feelings that way. Further, since all I am doing is pointing out how the president is not saying what you try and make it out he says, I am not trying to excuse any one. When you get around to the truth, which is Obama offered a couple possible scenarios, said he did not know for sure why it happened, and was not going to comment until he did, I will keep right on pointing out how wrong you are.
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I'll agree that it is too early to jump to conclusions. However, there were ties to extremist ideology. Saying that stress was the deciding factor causing Hasan to commit, if not an act of terrorism, at least an act of mass murder, is ridiculous.
    No one has said that.
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Opinions? While it's clear there isn't enough data to make either an informed guess not a politically correct hypothesis, I have created this not to scale diagram to assist you. Hopefully. Read the disclaimer btw.


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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Sigh. I ask you again why did he only bring up this one factor then? Why not bring them all up especially the ones with real tangible evidence behind them?
    So I take it you completely ignored these comments made by the President:

    It may be hard to comprehend the twisted logic that led to this tragedy. But this much we do know -- no faith justifies these murderous and craven acts; no just and loving God looks upon them with favor. For what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice -- in this world, and the next.
    No I'm forcing you to defend your inability to comprehend that one suggestion as you call it is indefensible unless you are going to bring them all up. He didn't because he doesn't want to deal with the very real possibility supported with evidence that this guy is simply a jihadist.
    He didn't because....

    and please...focus as hard as you can...

    HE DIDN'T WANT TO JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS AND WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION WAS OVER.

    This has been explained to you numerous times but you seem oblivious to this information.

    I at least have evidence to support my claim. 4 points I listed earlier. You have nothing to support your defense of a stress excuse. Sorry, its not equal footing.
    And it's been noted by many (even Obama as seen by the quote above) that his religion did play a role. How big of a role? We don't know. Like Obama, many are choosing to wait until all of the facts come in from the investigation before jumping to conclusions. Get it now?

    Now please read this carefully. The entire point is that he doesn't mention any other factors except stress. Do you even acknolwedge that?
    See the quote above.

    If you want to claim to be open minded then don't excuse the president giving only one reason for the attack in a speech while ignoring the one factor with evidence behind it.
    He mentioned it as a possibility, not a reason. Once again you misrepresent his words for purely partisan reasons. It's sad that you and others use this tragedy to further your own agendas.

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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Why is it so hard to say:

    "Major Hassan, who spent a lot of time, and effort praising, researching and being indoctrinated with the Jihadist Mind Set, decided to wage his own personal Jihad and killed American Soldiers because of this?"

    Is it a blind spot in the progressive mind to have to BLAME something related to America's "sins" instead of the obvious answer?
    Because progressives and liberals have been on their own little jihad trying desperately to ignore the evidence and suggest reasons that do not focus on Islamic motivations even though their excuses have no evidence to support them.

    Why they are doing it is a mystery.

    We are seeing it in this very thread.
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Then I'll judge him on the only cause he presented in that press conference and question why he ignored the only one with evidence to support it.
    Fine go for it and jump to conclusions.



    spot the irony?

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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Why is it so hard to say:

    "Major Hassan, who spent a lot of time, and effort praising, researching and being indoctrinated with the Jihadist Mind Set, decided to wage his own personal Jihad and killed American Soldiers because of this?"

    Is it a blind spot in the progressive mind to have to BLAME something related to America's "sins" instead of the obvious answer?
    That is probably what it will turn out to be. The most any one is saying that I have seen is it is too early to jump to conclusions.
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Fine go for it and jump to conclusions.



    spot the irony?
    Conclusions supported by facts we know.

    I'll take that over blind theory any day
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    Re: Obama Suggests Still Possible Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    So I take it you completely ignored these comments made by the President:





    He didn't because....

    and please...focus as hard as you can...

    HE DIDN'T WANT TO JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS AND WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION WAS OVER.

    This has been explained to you numerous times but you seem oblivious to this information.
    And what you keep missing is...

    IF HE DIDNT WANT TO JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE SUGGESTED A CAUSE AT ALL

    Until you get that, there is nothing more to say.
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