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    Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

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    The Army psychiatrist suspected of killing 13 people at Fort Hood reportedly warned senior Army physicians in 2007 that the military should allow Muslim soldiers to be released as conscientious objectors instead of fighting in wars to avoid "adverse events."
    According to The Washington Post, Major Nidal Malik Hasan was supposed to make a presentation on a medical topic during his senior year as a psychiatric resident at Walter Reed Medical Center.
    Instead, Hasan lectured his supervisors and two dozen mental health staff members on Islam, homicide bombings and threats the military could encounter from Muslims conflicted about fighting against other Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    A source who attended the presentation told the paper, "It was really strange. The senior doctors looked really upset."
    The Powerpoint, entitled, "The Koranic World View As It Relates to Muslims in the U.S. Military," consisted of 50 slides, according to a copy obtained by the Post.
    "It's getting harder and harder for Muslims in the service to morally justify being in a military that seems constantly engaged against fellow Muslims," Hasan said in the presentation...........
    "There were definitely clear indications that Hasan's loyalties were not with America," Lt. Col. Val Finnell, Hasan's classmate at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. He and Hasan were students in the school's public health master's degree program from 2007-2008.
    "The issue here is that there's a political correctness climate in the military. They don't want to say anything because it would be considered questioning somebody's religious belief, or they're afraid of an equal opportunity lawsuit.
    "I want to be clear that this wasn't about anyone questioning his religious views. It is different when you are a civilian than when you are a military officer," said Finnell, who is a physician at the Los Angeles Air Force Base.
    "When you are in the military and you start making comments that are seditious, when you say you believe something other than your oath of office someone needed to say why is this guy saying this stuff.
    "He was a lightning rod. He made his views known and he was very vocal, he had extremely radical jihadist
    With all the signs out there, there was a lack of action again. Liberal PC BS thinking is what led to the crap. Sensitivity training us into taking no action against anyone. Liberal good intentions just don't cut it anymore. This **** has to end.
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

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    With all the signs out there, there was a lack of action again. Liberal PC BS thinking is what led to the crap. Sensitivity training us into taking no action against anyone. Liberal good intentions just don't cut it anymore. This **** has to end.
    It should be obvious that this PC BS has gone too far but nothing is likely to change because we have allowed the wimps to take over and force so many really ludicrous, and preposterous ideas that invaded every part of our society. It's not only seen here in this case but Liberal influence is destroying our whole nation starting with the school system that has for years now taken incentive of of the classroom with grading systems that reward mediocrity, and it can be seen when everyone in a sport receives a trophy even they finish last because we don't want to make anyone feel less than perfect. It is this kind of thinking and teaching that leads to the PC world we find costing lives. We can't kick someone out of the Army because he's a Muslim and we might slight some of the other followers and boo hoo.

    Life is not all peaches and cream deal with it and GET OVER IT.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

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    With all the signs out there, there was a lack of action again. Liberal PC BS thinking is what led to the crap. Sensitivity training us into taking no action against anyone. Liberal good intentions just don't cut it anymore. This **** has to end.
    Yeah, it's clearly Liberals who are to blame here.

    God forbid we actually place the blame on the Islamic extremists who are trying to infiltrate our military, or the people who saw the warning signs and did nothing.

    It's sad when people use tragedy to further their own partisan hack agendas.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Yeah, it's clearly Liberals who are to blame here.

    God forbid we actually place the blame on the Islamic extremists who are trying to infiltrate our military, or the people who saw the warning signs and did nothing.

    Ya'll keep insisting that that's not happening. Which is it going to be?

    It's sad when people use tragedy to further their own partisan hack agendas.
    You must have been livid when the lamestream media blamed this on Bush's Wars.
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ya'll keep insisting that that's not happening. Which is it going to be?
    Actually, some people here wanted to wait and see whether this guy had legitimate terrorist ties before jumping the gun. I don't think that's exactly unreasonable. I'm sure if the people here had seen the warning signs they would feel differently. Mere moments after the news came in, many on the right were already making assumptions. I'd rather wait to hear what the official report is before I jump to unnecessary conclusions. Call me crazy.

    You must have been livid when the lamestream media blamed this on Bush's Wars.
    I think it's lame when anyone uses tragedy to further their own partisan agenda.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Actually, some people here wanted to wait and see whether this guy had legitimate terrorist ties before jumping the gun. I don't think that's exactly unreasonable. I'm sure if the people here had seen the warning signs they would feel differently. Mere moments after the news came in, many on the right were already making assumptions. I'd rather wait to hear what the official report is before I jump to unnecessary conclusions. Call me crazy.
    Yeah, there were alotta folks who automatically assumed that this was motivated by religion and, they turned out to be correct. Some folks, including yourself, keep insisting that this has nothing to do with Islamic extremism, keep apologizing for his religion and keep insisting that the dude has PTSD, when he was never deployed to a combat theater.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ya'll keep insisting that that's not happening. Which is it going to be?
    There's that magical "ya'll" again, akin to the "you" used by another poster.

    Can you point out to any specific forum members, with quotes clearly showing their views, that have insisted extremist islamist beliefs and those that did not pick up on the warnings sides are not in part to blame?

    Remember folks, guns don't kill people, people kill people, unless its a muslim person with a gun, in which case guns don't kill people, and people don't kill people, but religion kills people...ah the wonderful world of the hyper partisan hack republican.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    There's that magical "ya'll" again, akin to the "you" used by another poster.

    Can you point out to any specific forum members, with quotes clearly showing their views, that have insisted extremist islamist beliefs and those that did not pick up on the warnings sides are not in part to blame?
    Are you serious? really? If I have to actually show that to you, then there's no need to do it, because you'll find some way to spin in the denial. Not gonna waste my time with it, bro.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Yeah, it's clearly Liberals who are to blame here.

    God forbid we actually place the blame on the Islamic extremists who are trying to infiltrate our military, or the people who saw the warning signs and did nothing.

    It's sad when people use tragedy to further their own partisan hack agendas.
    I said liberal PC thinking, and that's how I feel about it. There is no room in the military for anything that hinders the mission or security. It would have been better to boot his ass out of the Army without counseling than to identify him as a risk and end up doing nothing for fear of some PC complaint.
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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, there were alotta folks who automatically assumed that this was motivated by religion and, they turned out to be correct. Some folks, including yourself, keep insisting that this has nothing to do with Islamic extremism, keep apologizing for his religion and keep insisting that the dude has PTSD, when he was never deployed to a combat theater.
    Actually, no. Many assumed at first that he did this because he was Muslim. Remember, at this time there was no information about terrorist ties. Myself and others argued that it wasn't necessarily motivated by his religion simply because he was Muslim. We further argued that you can't blame the actions of the Islamic extremists on all of Islam, which many appeared to be doing. None of my arguments said anything about his PTSD, and in fact I think that angle is kind of a cop out. Frankly, I could care less about what motivated him. The point is that he did something horrible and should face the consequences. Nice attempt to make things up, though.

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