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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you're argument is, I'm bull****ting you? great job! And, you're a mod?
    Yes. My argument is that if you can't provide evidence for the accusations you make then it must mean you're making them up, aka bull****ting.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Didn't take long for you to show up and help your pards. How did he make my point? Well, let's see.
    Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strongest suit. That's no problem. I don't know how to make it any clearer for you. I said that his actions weren't NECESSARILY motivated by his religion. If you recall, when the story broke, there was absolutely nothing about the terrorist ties or anything else. It was simply mentioned that he was a Muslim. Rather than jumping to conclusions about his religion, I and others wanted to wait for official word on whether or not he had terrorist ties before jumping the gun like you and others did. Do you understand now?

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yes. My argument is that if you can't provide evidence for the accusations you make then it must mean you're making them up, aka bull****ting.
    You can't rebut my comments, so you resort to cussing. nothing new from you.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strongest suit. That's no problem. I don't know how to make it any clearer for you. I said that his actions weren't NECESSARILY motivated by his religion. If you recall, when the story broke, there was absolutely nothing about the terrorist ties or anything else. It was simply mentioned that he was a Muslim. Rather than jumping to conclusions about his religion, I and others wanted to wait for official word on whether or not he had terrorist ties before jumping the gun like you and others did. Do you understand now?
    Insults is really all you boys really have, huh?

    Ok, Lerxt, it's your turn.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Didn't take long for you to show up and help your pards. How did he make my point? Well, let's see.

    First, Doc says:




    Then, he says:



    It's not hard, you're not ignorant, you're just in college, that's all.
    And you have no clue what you're talking about. He's addressing two different points in a varying context. It's called keeping up with the flow of the conversation. He was being situational in his comments. One was more to the point of actually affixing blame to known extremists for the acts they commit instead of blaming a whole religion, the other was explaining that we don't know this guy murdered because of his faith or because of a mental breakdown (a little thing called facts of the case).

    Apparently it is hard, you are ignorant, and I don't know if you went to college but I doubt it.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Insults is really all you boys really have, huh?

    Ok, Lerxt, it's your turn.
    Once again, you failed to read the post. What a shock!

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can't rebut my comments, so you resort to cussing. nothing new from you.
    You have yet to sufficiently rebut anyone's comments.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    And you have no clue what you're talking about. He's addressing two different points in a varying context. It's called keeping up with the flow of the conversation. He was being situational in his comments. One was more to the point of actually affixing blame to known extremists for the acts they commit instead of blaming a whole religion, the other was explaining that we don't know this guy murdered because of his faith or because of a mental breakdown (a little thing called facts of the case).

    Apparently it is hard, you are ignorant, and I don't know if you went to college but I doubt it.
    You didn't let me down, son!...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can't rebut my comments, so you resort to cussing. nothing new from you.
    Do you know the definition of the word "rebut?" Let me help you.

    Main Entry: re·but
    Pronunciation: \ri-ˈbət\
    Function: verb
    Inflected Form(s): re·but·ted; re·but·ting
    Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French reboter, from re- + boter to butt — more at butt
    Date: 14th century

    transitive verb 1 : to drive or beat back : repel
    2 a : to contradict or oppose by formal legal argument, plea, or countervailing proof b : to expose the falsity of : refuteintransitive verb : to make or furnish an answer or counter proof
    You wanna try that again?

    Big words!
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Fort Hood Suspect Warned of Muslim Threat Within Military

    apdst its not intelligent to be so dishonest in your presentation when there's an entire thread of posts above that someone can go and actually look at the quote you use, but see it IN CONTEXT.


    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    First, Doc says:
    Quote Originally Posted by DrP
    God forbid we actually place the blame on the Islamic extremists who are trying to infiltrate our military, or the people who saw the warning signs and did nothing.
    Correct, he says that.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst
    Then, he says:
    Quote Originally Posted by DrP
    Myself and others argued that it wasn't necessarily motivated by his religion simply because he was Muslim.
    Ohhh, the issue of context. Horrible horrible context. First off, lets see what he's responding to...I think its this comment:

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ya'll keep insisting that that's not happening.
    Again you chose to use the word insisting.

    Now lets see what DrP said IN CONTEXT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr P
    Actually, no. Many assumed at first that he did this because he was Muslim. Remember, at this time there was no information about terrorist ties. Myself and others argued that it wasn't necessarily motivated by his religion simply because he was Muslim.
    Notice he's talking about when this ALL FIRST BROKE, IE "at first". And even then he's not saying they "insisted" it "wasn't" motivated by religion, but simply that immedietely upon finding out he was muslim that did not necessarily mean that is what motivated him to do it.

    That is not the same as at this point, after the evidence has came to light, insisting (your word) that his extreme islamic views had nothing to do with it.

    Not anyones fault but your own that you made an inaccurate baseless accusation by stating people are INSISTING that it has no blame. What people did was early on state that it was POTENTIALLY not his religion, but that there wasn't enough facts to know for sure either way.

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