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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I agree with you that on matters of defense, Bush handled things quite well. I thought he handled the 9/11 attacks and the war in Afghanistan well. I didn't agree with the invasion of Iraq, but despite that I can't find a lot of fault with how he handled it.
    Post 911 what do you do with a lingering threat.?

    12-years, 16 ignored UN resolutions, known to use WMD, kicked out UN Inspecteurs de la Sortie pour le WMD, and trying to assassinate a former president?

    Bush went to the UN, he gave Saddam a last chance to come clean. Had he balked after doing this, the standard Clinton move... balk and walk... the idiots of the world would have been empowered beyond belief.

    You cannot win a war on the defensive or by Clinton-styled cowering... passing everything to the corrupt UN.

    That Saddam wanted war... was his choice. That terrorists flooded in wasn't a bad thing as we had a battleground to centralize a lot of them, their efforts, and defeat them.

    I couldn't stand the way he handled most domestic issues though. I hated the fact that he seemed to think that his own personal beliefs should dictate policy. Even so, I don't think he was a bad person, just a bad president.
    I didn't like his spending.

    I take it you wouldn't have liked George Washington either. Or John Adams.

    Bush was a great president where it counted most. National security.
    He took a hell of a lot of flak, but he stayed the course.

    When he ran for office, he told you where he stood. He didn't hide it... or lie about it unlike Clinton and Obama.

    Going to visit the victims of the Fort Hood attack was a good thing to do, and I commend him for it.
    I believe it is totally consistent with his character.

    America being huge, diverse, a tremendously open society with borders... amazingly porous presents a huge challenge for security. The kooks only need one good day. After 911, Bush had some huge decisions to make, and he made them. We weren't hit at home again... until last week.

    What caused it?
    Political correctness. We let our guard down, looked the other way once and look what happened.

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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Post 911 what do you do with a lingering threat.?

    12-years, 16 ignored UN resolutions, known to use WMD, kicked out UN Inspecteurs de la Sortie pour le WMD, and trying to assassinate a former president?

    Bush went to the UN, he gave Saddam a last chance to come clean. Had he balked after doing this, the standard Clinton move... balk and walk... the idiots of the world would have been empowered beyond belief.

    You cannot win a war on the defensive or by Clinton-styled cowering... passing everything to the corrupt UN.

    That Saddam wanted war... was his choice. That terrorists flooded in wasn't a bad thing as we had a battleground to centralize a lot of them, their efforts, and defeat them.

    I didn't like his spending.

    I take it you wouldn't have liked George Washington either. Or John Adams.

    Bush was a great president where it counted most. National security.
    He took a hell of a lot of flak, but he stayed the course.

    When he ran for office, he told you where he stood. He didn't hide it... or lie about it unlike Clinton and Obama.

    I believe it is totally consistent with his character.

    America being huge, diverse, a tremendously open society with borders... amazingly porous presents a huge challenge for security. The kooks only need one good day. After 911, Bush had some huge decisions to make, and he made them. We weren't hit at home again... until last week.

    What caused it?
    Political correctness. We let our guard down, looked the other way once and look what happened.

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    You write as if to deny or at least excuse that 911 happened on GWB's watch.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    YES IT DID. how disengenuous.
    Are you actually referring to my comments about Obama's religious leanings and personal lack of concern and insensitivity as being political?
    Here's was I said if it will help you recall the facts. These comments never referred to Obama being a Socialist/Communist or anything other than his personal attitude based on observations that make them clear even to a blind follower.
    And would never sign a death warrant that will be required when he is found guilty of murder. Obama will no doubt site some BS how this poor misunderstood Hasan was confused and was picked on.
    Also when it Comes to Obama's whole persona is it's all about me. And it's not political it's a major character flaw.
    Look at the fact that it took him almost a full two minutes to mention the terrorist attack while giving a speech that day.
    If that's not enough to show that my assessment is spot on look at the 20th anniversary of the Berlin Wall coming down. As much of the free world was celebrating the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall we sent Hillary Clinton to represent us. What did she talk about? The contributions made to the fall by a US President Named Reagan who was in much of America and many elsewhere in the world instrumental in the ultimate demise. Hell no he never came up. She said, "I have the pleasure to introduce a man who tore down different kinds of walls. Including walls of racial intolerance", Barack Hussein Obama, then a video of Obama was shown and he never mentioned Reagan either.
    Obama's theme song should be "It's all about Me" DRU HILL "ITS ALL ABOUT ME" I think it sux but it fits.

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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You write as if to deny or at least excuse that 911 happened on GWB's watch.
    Say what?
    Disney... you really have too take it easy with the Kool'Aid.

    I could handle your other blather, but this my friend is just nuts.
    Borderline seriously ill.

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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Say what?
    Disney... you really have too take it easy with the Kool'Aid.

    I could handle your other blather, but this my friend is just nuts.
    Borderline seriously ill.

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    Funny....I had the same reaction to your post
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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'd just give up Arch. I see the point you're making and somewhat agree, but they just see "not human" and "Bush" and immedietely assume you mean Bush Bashing, the war was unjust, he lied people died, etc etc etc. Immedietely defensive. No matter how much you explain they're not going to actually READ your words, they're just going to see them and interprit what they want.
    Yeah. I already gave up.
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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You write as if to deny or at least excuse that 911 happened on GWB's watch.
    Pearl Harbor happened on FDR's watch.
    What's your point?

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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Pearl Harbor happened on FDR's watch.
    What's your point?
    The point being...you take the good with the bad. You cannot deny history.
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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Are you actually referring to my comments about Obama's religious leanings and personal lack of concern and insensitivity as being political?
    Here's was I said if it will help you recall the facts. These comments never referred to Obama being a Socialist/Communist or anything other than his personal attitude based on observations that make them clear even to a blind follower.


    Also when it Comes to Obama's whole persona is it's all about me. And it's not political it's a major character flaw.
    Look at the fact that it took him almost a full two minutes to mention the terrorist attack while giving a speech that day.
    If that's not enough to show that my assessment is spot on look at the 20th anniversary of the Berlin Wall coming down. As much of the free world was celebrating the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall we sent Hillary Clinton to represent us. What did she talk about? The contributions made to the fall by a US President Named Reagan who was in much of America and many elsewhere in the world instrumental in the ultimate demise. Hell no he never came up. She said, "I have the pleasure to introduce a man who tore down different kinds of walls. Including walls of racial intolerance", Barack Hussein Obama, then a video of Obama was shown and he never mentioned Reagan either.
    Obama's theme song should be "It's all about Me" DRU HILL "ITS ALL ABOUT ME" I think it sux but it fits.
    i'm referring to your need to disparage obama while claiming to honor bush. 2 different circumstances.

    of course, you know that.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The point being...you take the good with the bad. You cannot deny history.
    Correlation means nothing.

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