George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

Navy Pride said:

I think history will judge Bush as a very good president.........Much better then Clinton or Hussein Obama...........

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of course you do navy....of course you do. You still believe that he is a "Great and inspired World leader" .....

Hmmm....is Bush selling shares in a multi-billion dollar global warming scam, like Al Gore?

Did Bush bring along the TV cameras to have solemn moment "alone" with the returning dead from Afghanistan, like the Messiah has?

Did Bush refuse to visit troops in the hospital when the base commander refused access to the press entourage, like the Messiah did in Germany?

Is Bush planning future steps in his political career, like Red Queen Clinton always is?

No to all of that. In fact, Bush deliberately requested that the press be kept away from his visit to the Fort Hood wounded. That makes it pretty plain his goal was to meet and console the wounded, not make political statements, and it shows the real nature of the man.

He was a messed up liberal of a president, but he did the right thing this time.

liblady said:

i'm referring to your need to disparage obama while claiming to honor bush. 2 different circumstances.

of course, you know that.

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Once again you are making an incorrect assumption by reading something into what I said that's not there.
All I said about Bush was;

They went out of concern and in respect of our Military without the fanfare and cameras

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That's it not claiming anything it's a statement of fact along with my opinion. No where does it say atta boy George or way to make Obama look bad again or anything of the sort. This is really beginning to start calling into question your ability to comprehend what you read without that ever present bias you seem to carry around.
Making an observation that espouses political bias is easy to see just watch the news on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and MSNBC they project a political bias in favor of Obama with just about every story.
It is not my intention to appear to be lecturing you I had hoped I'd given that up some years back. I would think at this point the best thing to do now is move to another topic. Next time you make a claim, quote the offending passage as an example, much as I have done in showing that you are mistaken again.

disneydude said:

of course you do navy....of course you do. You still believe that he is a "Great and inspired World leader" .....

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I believe that unlike our present president he does not kiss ass..........

Councilman said:

Once again you are making an incorrect assumption by reading something into what I said that's not there.
All I said about Bush was;
That's it not claiming anything it's a statement of fact along with my opinion. No where does it say atta boy George or way to make Obama look bad again or anything of the sort. This is really beginning to start calling into question your ability to comprehend what you read without that ever present bias you seem to carry around.
Making an observation that espouses political bias is easy to see just watch the news on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and MSNBC they project a political bias in favor of Obama with just about every story.
It is not my intention to appear to be lecturing you I had hoped I'd given that up some years back. I would think at this point the best thing to do now is move to another topic. Next time you make a claim, quote the offending passage as an example, much as I have done in showing that you are mistaken again.

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really?

They went out of concern and in respect of our Military without the fanfare and cameras like you can count on Obama to take full advantage of in his constant and continuous self aggrandizement. Obama will do everything he can to make it all about himself as he has everything else he's been involved in.
I doubt seriously that you will ever hear Obama admit the Hasan was acting as an Islamic terrorist. And would never sign a death warrant that will be required when he is found guilty of murder. Obama will no doubt site some BS how this poor misunderstood Hasan was confused and was picked on. BOO HOO big deal.

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you are seriously deluded.

Navy Pride said:

I believe that unlike our present president he does not kiss ass..........

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Your point is made, NP, you hate Obama and won't miss an opportunity to compare him to anyone whose actions might make him look bad...
Enough, already....get another hobby...

Oftencold said:

OK, I'm confused. The public actions of a sitting President, and a former president at an event the includes the press and public speeches is in some manner, not fair game for political discussion? Isn't this somewhat akin to saying that a bordello is no place to discuss sex?

by the way, a dull child could link Obama with terrorists, at least as an enabler, it takes brilliance however to contrive an imagined discontinuity.

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yes, it's game, and it's politicizing what bush did in contrast to obama's actions. but council denied that.

and it really is amazing to me that you link obama with terrorists. but that goes with your territory, i imagine.

liblady said:

really?

you are seriously deluded.

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Once again you make a wild claim you have no justification for. With that in mind it is pointless to argue with and empty vessel.

Councilman said:

Once again you make a wild claim you have no justification for. With that in mind it is pointless to argue with and empty vessel.

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hmm....i take it you don't read.

Blackdog said:

Oh I am sorry I was mistaking this....

"Obama to take full advantage of in his constant and continuous self aggrandizement. Obama will do everything he can to make it all about himself as he has everything else he's been involved in.
I doubt seriously that you will ever hear Obama admit the Hasan was acting as an Islamic terrorist. And would never sign a death warrant that will be required when he is found guilty of murder. Obama will no doubt site some BS how this poor misunderstood Hasan was confused and was picked on. BOO HOO big deal. - Councilman

For partisanship. :roll:

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yeah, me too.

Navy Pride said:

I think history will judge Bush as a very good president.........Much better then Clinton or Hussein Obama...........

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Goes without saying that he'll be ranked better than the Rapist President and the Messiah.

He's marginally better than average, which means he's way better than those two clowns.

Navy Pride said:

I believe that unlike our present president he does not kiss ass..........

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I'm just using your words Navy...you believe that GWB was a "great and inspired world leader".

Scarecrow Akhbar said:

Goes without saying that he'll be ranked better than the Rapist President and the Messiah.

He's marginally better than average, which means he's way better than those two clowns.

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yeah....because his record speaks for itself. :doh

Scarecrow Akhbar said:

Goes without saying that he'll be ranked better than the Rapist President and the Messiah.

He's marginally better than average, which means he's way better than those two clowns.

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He did create the Bush Doctrine.

In answer to some who believe George W. Bush will go down in history as a great President, I have to say I would like to see every President be a great leader and succeed but there is little chance that all can achieve that lofty goal. To that it can't be we have to look no farther back than R.M.Nixon who had a few good years but took a tumble over some really stupid moves, followed by Ford who did pretty much nothing worth talking about, then we come to Jimmy Carter. A whole chapter could be written about his short comings and our right failures not the least of which was his wimpy side and the disastrous state he left the economy in.
Ronald Wilson Reagan was one of a kind and lead this nation to greatness with his attitude and clear leadership abilities, and his actions not only helped America when we needed it, he helped the world by his unflinching standing up to the Soviet Union which helped to hasten their demise.
I'm not even going to go into Clinton because I'd get in trouble for taking up pages on his comings. (no pun intended) George W. had his faults and did things I vehemently disagree with like the Patriot Acts 1 & 2. The invasion of Iraq based on false and misleading information and more. But there is one thing I believe we can say is he always honored the troops and did what he thought was right and good for the Nation. Bush will never be of the Caliber of the founding fathers but he won't be down on the bottom of the list either.
Obama is doing what he can to promote himself first, and his Socialist/Communist agenda second and to hell with the Nation. So far he's been like someone who won the lotto in his party of uncontrolled spending sprees on real parties and the millions he's spent entertainment, and travel, not to mention his policies that have been self explanatory.
Now it appears he been doing his best not call a terrorist by what he obviously is. He said before he won't allow the use of the term Terrorism on his watch. I now man make disasters give me a (expletive deleted) break.
I don't want the man to fail, only everyone of his (expletive deleted) Anti-American Socialist/Communist policies.

disneydude said:

yeah....because his record speaks for itself. :doh

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Yeah.

Six years of economic growth, while conducting two wars, one of which was successful before he left office, the other still in process, probably to be lost by the Messiah, who STILL can't make up his own damn mind about sending troops in. For some reason, the Messiah has to get the approval of dirtbags in Europe before committing troops under his command to battle.

Your Messiah, the leader of the free world, has to wait for a committee of foreigners to tell him what to do with US troops in the battlefield.

That's YOUR Messiah.

reefedjib said:

He did create the Bush Doctrine.

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Which one?

The media created the Bush Doctrines, and there never was a consensus on what the **** they meant by the term, and still isn't.

Scarecrow Akhbar said:

Yeah.

Six years of economic growth, while conducting two wars, one of which was successful before he left office, the other still in process, probably to be lost by the Messiah, who STILL can't make up his own damn mind about sending troops in. For some reason, the Messiah has to get the approval of dirtbags in Europe before committing troops under his command to battle.

Your Messiah, the leader of the free world, has to wait for a committee of foreigners to tell him what to do with US troops in the battlefield.

That's YOUR Messiah.

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Considering that only 30% of Americans strongly approve of Obama's performance (according to Rasmussen's Daily Presidential Tracking Poll) I think it's pretty safe to say that most people are pretty disillusioned with the President and that this whole "Messiah" nonsense has run its course. Wouldn't you say?

Scarecrow Akhbar said:

Which one?

The media created the Bush Doctrines, and there never was a consensus on what the **** they meant by the term, and still isn't.

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Not true. Wikipedia does a good job of describing the evolution of the [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine]Bush Doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] from it's orgin prior to Afghanistan to it's final elucidation right before Iraq.

Two main pillars are identified for the doctrine: preemptive strikes against potential enemies and promoting democratic regime change

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zimmer said:

Post 911 what do you do with a lingering threat.?

12-years, 16 ignored UN resolutions, known to use WMD, kicked out UN Inspecteurs de la Sortie pour le WMD, and trying to assassinate a former president?

Bush went to the UN, he gave Saddam a last chance to come clean. Had he balked after doing this, the standard Clinton move... balk and walk... the idiots of the world would have been empowered beyond belief.

You cannot win a war on the defensive or by Clinton-styled cowering... passing everything to the corrupt UN.

That Saddam wanted war... was his choice. That terrorists flooded in wasn't a bad thing as we had a battleground to centralize a lot of them, their efforts, and defeat them.

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I disagreed with going into Iraq because I don't really think they were a threat. And I think Bush was dishonest with the public about his reasons for the invasion.

zimmer said:

I didn't like his spending.

I take it you wouldn't have liked George Washington either. Or John Adams.

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I couldn't really answer this unless I had lived through their presidencies.

zimmer said:

Bush was a great president where it counted most. National security.

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I agree with you that he handled national security issues well, but I don't think that excuses his poor handling of so many other issues.

zimmer said:

He took a hell of a lot of flak, but he stayed the course.

When he ran for office, he told you where he stood. He didn't hide it... or lie about it unlike Clinton and Obama.

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He was definitely consistent, I'll agree to that as well.

As far as his reputation throughout history goes, I suspect he'll come off as average.

disneydude said:

Its their version of bells and whistles and a photography brigade.

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Come on. He isn't president any more. He has no photo ops to conduct. What he did here was an honest act.

Kudos to Bush.

The troops loved this president, and he loves them, obviously.

Dr_Patrick said:

Considering that only 30% of Americans strongly approve of Obama's performance (according to Rasmussen's Daily Presidential Tracking Poll) I think it's pretty safe to say that most people are pretty disillusioned with the President and that this whole "Messiah" nonsense has run its course. Wouldn't you say?

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Thank you. Obama is only a "messiah" in the eyes of partisans. The term "messiah" seems to be easily achievable if someone doesn't even need a 50% approval rating to earn it.

disneydude said:

Funny....I had the same reaction to your post :doh

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What a short, perverted memory you seem to have. Clinton ignores multiple acts of terrorism against the US (US Cole, 1st WTC attack, and others) and builds their courage and they spring their attack soon after Bush is elected... and after Clinton and company do everything the can to sever the lines of communcations between CIA and FBI to make it harder to uncover such plots.

Yes, this is Bush's fault... what a joke... what a partisan hack:roll:!

Dr_Patrick said:

Considering that only 30% of Americans strongly approve of Obama's performance (according to Rasmussen's Daily Presidential Tracking Poll) I think it's pretty safe to say that most people are pretty disillusioned with the President and that this whole "Messiah" nonsense has run its course. Wouldn't you say?

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Funny how Rasmussen is never used unless it can be perverted to make a liberal point.....


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