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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Because he had to make decisions that are inhumane. I am not talking humanity as an organic or physiological concept, but of an ethos.
    Yes, and so I am.
    Making decisions that are "inhumane" does not INHERENTLY disqualify you from being human.

    Did GWB understand and recoGnize the enormity of the diecisions he made?
    Did GWB express genuine regret at having to make those decisions?
    Did GWB espress genuine remorse for the fate of those affected?
    Did GWB express genuine compassion for the families of those affected?

    Yes, he did -- on all accounts.

    Thus, human.

    (Note that this does not address the subjectivity of the term 'inhumane')

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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes, and so I am.
    Making decisions that are "inhumane" does not INHERENTLY disqualify you from being human.

    Did GWB understand and recoGnize the enormity of the diecisions he made?
    Did GWB express genuine regret at having to make those decisions?
    Did GWB espress genuine remorse for the fate of those affected?
    Did GWB express genuine compassion for the families of those affected?

    Yes, he did -- on all accounts.

    Thus, human.

    (Note that this does not address the subjectivity of the term 'inhumane')
    Without being the President of the United States, would GWB have had to make those decisions in any other field? I'd say, not unless he turned into an underground criminal overlord.

    Thus, I find the Office of Presidency to be atypical of the human experience, thus nonhuman
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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Without being the President of the United States, would GWB have had to make those decisions in any other field? I'd say, not unless he turned into an underground criminal overlord.

    Thus, I find the Office of Presidency to be atypical of the human experience, thus nonhuman
    Ah. Well, I find no merit in your argument.
    Of all the President we've had, GWB is among the MOST human.

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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Ah. Well, I find no merit in your argument.
    Of all the President we've had, GWB is among the MOST human.
    I don't even understand how you could make such an accusation of one person. That in the shilloutte of all Presidents, GWB stands out as the most human (the one who is playing the game more like human, than a State appendage)? I wouldn't dare ask for the merits of your arguement because you cannot produce them.

    Please note that I am not using anti-Bush rhetoric. I think the Office of President is sick, and the people who sign-up for the job are usually sane, but start coughing.
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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I don't even understand how you could make such an accusation of one person.
    Seems pretty self-explanatory to me.
    Of all the Presidents, he is among those that exhibited the most "human" qualities.
    Disagree?
    Maybe then you should list what, to you, makes people "human".
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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Not sure how that shows -he- wasn't human.
    Protecting America from idiocy is not an easy job. He took it deadly seriously.

    What is inhumane is tying the hands of our troops, of our intel services, and then pissing in their faces. Telling the world the war is lost, that they are themselves committing acts of terror, are Nazi's, and rapists. All from the mouths of the left's leadership.

    Bush has always been a good man. I didn't like a lot of his domestic economic agenda, but on protecting us, he was right on the money.

    Tell me, after 911 how do you defeat the terrorist scum?
    Tell me, has a war, and we were attacked, ever been won on the defensive? Through the courts?

    It's not like 911 was the first time we were hit by the scum. We had a finger waving president telling the terrorists he would get them... what did he do? Shot missiles into a hillside...

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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    I'd just give up Arch. I see the point you're making and somewhat agree, but they just see "not human" and "Bush" and immedietely assume you mean Bush Bashing, the war was unjust, he lied people died, etc etc etc. Immedietely defensive. No matter how much you explain they're not going to actually READ your words, they're just going to see them and interprit what they want.

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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Protecting America from idiocy is not an easy job. He took it deadly seriously.

    What is inhumane is tying the hands of our troops, of our intel services, and then pissing in their faces. Telling the world the war is lost, that they are themselves committing acts of terror, are Nazi's, and rapists. All from the mouths of the left's leadership.

    Bush has always been a good man. I didn't like a lot of his domestic economic agenda, but on protecting us, he was right on the money.

    Tell me, after 911 how do you defeat the terrorist scum?
    Tell me, has a war, and we were attacked, ever been won on the defensive? Through the courts?

    It's not like 911 was the first time we were hit by the scum. We had a finger waving president telling the terrorists he would get them... what did he do? Shot missiles into a hillside...
    I agree with you that on matters of defense, Bush handled things quite well. I thought he handled the 9/11 attacks and the war in Afghanistan well. I didn't agree with the invasion of Iraq, but despite that I can't find a lot of fault with how he handled it.

    I couldn't stand the way he handled most domestic issues though. I hated the fact that he seemed to think that his own personal beliefs should dictate policy. Even so, I don't think he was a bad person, just a bad president.

    Going to visit the victims of the Fort Hood attack was a good thing to do, and I commend him for it.
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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims - FOXNews.com

    They went out of concern and in respect of our Military without the fanfare and cameras like you can count on Obama to take full advantage of in his constant and continuous self aggrandizement. Obama will do everything he can to make it all about himself as he has everything else he's been involved in.
    I doubt seriously that you will ever hear Obama admit the Hasan was acting as an Islamic terrorist. And would never sign a death warrant that will be required when he is found guilty of murder. Obama will no doubt site some BS how this poor misunderstood Hasan was confused and was picked on. BOO HOO big deal.
    your attempt to politicize this is uncalled for. and your equally pathetic attempt to link obama with terrorists is contemptible.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: George W. Bush Secretly Visits Fort Hood Victims

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    My post did not in any way refer to anything political or any political position.
    It is you who are trying to politicized this act of compassion. I simply pointed out that some people care more about other people than they do about their own image. It's about the measure of a man and his integrity. Something Obama lacks.
    Politically I have over the years disagreed with GWB more than almost anyone in the office, until now.
    I feel it's important that everyone do a little reading and study into how to comprehend what you read so that you can stop projecting your automatic defense of what was not said. Your knowledge of Obama's lack of genuine concern over anything not Obama related is what caused you to do this. It's kind of sad.
    YES IT DID. how disengenuous.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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