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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    The amount execution costs the taxpayer is ludicrous. You can keep him rotting in a cell on his own forever for cheaper.
    So what?

    We piss away billions, and the left carps about a few measly bucks spent precisely where the Constitution permits it.
    And what about the deterrent effect of executing the scum? Or the families that want closure?

    You folks are upside-down ludicrous.

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    Pretty sure many studies show no deterrent effect for capital punishment. In fact, it seems to coincide with small increases in violence after the punishment. This could be because it legitimizes the use of lethal force against people who deserve it.

    The problem with staying true to celerity (the least important of the factors in deterrence alongside the most important: certainty and 2nd: severity) in capital punishment is that is increases the risk of executing innocent people. I'm not sure how many innocent deaths at the hands of the goverment are acceptable to you.
    Have you seen many executed criminals re-offend?
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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Unfortunately the prison system is not ran by people who think like me .So unfortunately life in prison simply means libraries,tv, 3 square meals a day, free medical care, air conditioning and other luxuries that law abiding citizens in 3rd world countries only dream about. Life in prison today doesn't mean a actual punishment.
    I don't know about you, but a total lack of freedom, hanging out with a bunch of criminals with essentially no morals, having no privacy when using the bathroom, having to wear the same clothes day in and day out, being surrounded by cigarette smoke, etc. would be torture for an intellectual, classy babe like myself!

    You make a good argument for why being in jail isn't so bad, but I would be surprised of those in jail feel that way.

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    You make a good argument for why being in jail isn't so bad, but I would be surprised of those in jail feel that way.
    Hard to say because so many that get out, go right back in. Must be something about it. Easy prison sex?

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Hard to say because so many that get out, go right back in. Must be something about it. Easy prison sex?
    LOL I would guess that their going back in is more related to their inability to be a law-abiding person than saying, "I miss jail sex."

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Just off the sombitch and be done with it. Let his maker deal with the murdering scumbag.
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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    Not so sure I trust the Heritage Foundation, but I do wish I could see the actual journal articles that it cites. Little suspicious that they established causation but the article doesn't explicate the methods of the studies in enough detail so I can't be sure.

    Though I think what makes me most suspicious is the notion that deterrence can have an effect upon crimes of passion, which cannot fall under hedonistic calculus.
    How about all the researchers independent of HF?
    Heritage merely compiled the info.

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I don't know about you, but a total lack of freedom, hanging out with a bunch of criminals with essentially no morals, having no privacy when using the bathroom, having to wear the same clothes day in and day out, being surrounded by cigarette smoke, etc. would be torture for an intellectual, classy babe like myself!

    You make a good argument for why being in jail isn't so bad, but I would be surprised of those in jail feel that way.
    Would you send your kids to their room as punishment if they have video games, computer,phone toys,cable tv and other things in their room? This is the equivalent of sending someone to a prison, they have the same **** on the inside as they did on the outside probably more.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    It looks like a rat lawyer will not help him weasel out of his punishment.


    TBO.com - News From AP
    Nov 10, 12:13 PM EST
    RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Gov. Tim Kaine denied clemency Tuesday for sniper John Allen Muhammad, clearing the way for him to be executed for the attacks that terrorized the nation's capital region for three weeks in 2002
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Would you send your kids to their room as punishment if they have video games, computer,phone toys,cable tv and other things in their room? This is the equivalent of sending someone to a prison, they have the same **** on the inside as they did on the outside probably more.
    Oh, come on, jamesrage. You can't be serious. Sending my son to his room is equivalent to spending time in jail?

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