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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The government should not be in the business of execution.
    Only God should decide when a person dies.
    How do you know He hasn't?

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Unfortunately the prison system is not ran by people who think like me .So unfortunately life in prison simply means libraries,tv, 3 square meals a day, free medical care, air conditioning and other luxuries that law abiding citizens in 3rd world countries only dream about. Life in prison today doesn't mean a actual punishment.
    Such high-profile people do. They have isolation centres in prison for these people these days that basically cuts them off from the outside world.
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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How do you know He hasn't?
    I doubt highly that God would be in the business of government execution.
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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    There are studies showing precisely the opposite.

    The Death Penalty Deters Crime and Saves Lives
    Not so sure I trust the Heritage Foundation, but I do wish I could see the actual journal articles that it cites. Little suspicious that they established causation but the article doesn't explicate the methods of the studies in enough detail so I can't be sure.

    Though I think what makes me most suspicious is the notion that deterrence can have an effect upon crimes of passion, which cannot fall under hedonistic calculus.
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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I doubt highly that God would be in the business of government execution.
    Because...?
    Seems to me there's at least a few examples of that in the OT.

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I doubt highly that God would be in the business of government execution.
    You mean the same God that rained down destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, flooded the earth, had all kinds of plagues in Egypt, drowned some egyptions while they were trying to chase the Israelites, had the Israelites wage war with the local inhabitants of Israel to take it from the Canaanites, had commandment that required a death penalty for various crimes and other acts and other orders or creation of death and destruction in the Bible? Are you talking about the same God?
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    The amount execution costs the taxpayer is ludicrous. You can keep him rotting in a cell on his own forever for cheaper.
    Execute them quicker. Problem solved.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You mean the same God that rained down destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, flooded the earth, had all kinds of plagues in Egypt, drowned some egyptions while they were trying to chase the Israelites, had the Israelites wage war with the local inhabitants of Israel to take it from the Canaanites, had commandment that required a death penalty for various crimes and various others acts or orders of death and destruction in the Bible? Are you talking about the same God?
    Dude!! You took ALL my good examples.

    Of course, the counter is "This was God Himself, not the State".

    The question then becomes "If God is more than willing to kill those that sin, what argument is there that He opposes the state doing the same?"

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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    The amount execution costs the taxpayer is ludicrous. You can keep him rotting in a cell on his own forever for cheaper.
    The point is justice.
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    Re: D.C. sniper mastermind set to be executed Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    Such high-profile people do. They have isolation centres in prison for these people these days that basically cuts them off from the outside world.
    Assuming you had children would you send your kids to their room as punishment if they had cellphones, computers, video games, tv, and lots of other toys to play with? This is the equivalent of sending people to prison today. Most parents with at least an ounce of common sense would not send that child to his room as a punishment or at least confiscate all the power cords,mobile electronic devices and any other thing the child could use to subvert their punishment before sending that child to his room as punishment. The prison system today has so many luxuries that one has to wonder how they are being punished. Yeah there is a threat of being stabbed, or buttraped by some closet homosexual/gay inmate, but if you removed those things they what would make prison an actual punishment? Isolated from the rest of society? Big deal, not a punishment.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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