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    Re: Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Found this (Minneapolis-St. Paul StarTribune) article on WorldNews.com and thought it might help explain some of the issues surrounding the President's delay in sending more troops as some would have him do right now.

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    Take what you will from this, but I know I wouldn't send more ground troops in-country unless and until I had assurances that the government in place had a firm hand in taking over their own country.

    If you look at the map on page 10 to this thread, you'll see that the Taliban still holds a vast majority of Afghanistan. If the mission has, in fact, changed from "defeating Al-Quaida" to "nation building", then ensuring that the new government is capable of governing is crucial to this process. So, until you know that they can, it makes no sense to commit more troops to an otherwise futile cause. Hence, the question rightfully before the President: Has the original anti-terrorist objective been met? If so, how do we leave in short order and ensure stability in the region? -OR- What is the new mission and how do we go about achieving it?
    40,000 troops right away is always the answer.
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    Re: Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

    Take what you will from this, but I know I wouldn't send more ground troops in-country unless and until I had assurances that the government in place had a firm hand in taking over their own country.
    If the current government had a firm hand in taking over their own country there wouldn't be any need to send troops...LMAO!!!
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    Re: Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Take what you will from this, but I know I wouldn't send more ground troops in-country unless and until I had assurances that the government in place had a firm hand in taking over their own country.
    The same was said about Iraq before the surge.
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    Re: Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    The same was said about Iraq before the surge.
    The surge, by the way, that Obama and Kerry were against. I just think they don't want to be proven wrong twice in a row and then have to side with their opponents and say it worked. But having said that I will admit that Afghanistan is a different beast from Iraq, but the people on the ground have spoken.

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    Re: Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

    It's kinda interesting to see, some of the same liberals here, who critisized the Bush administrations surge, stunningly silent on Obama throwing more troops at afghanistan.... Telling very telling indeed....
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    Re: Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

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    If we come home we have to do it in a more honorable way than the Soviets did.
    The Soviets had no choice. They stayed too long and their tactics were predictable. The Mujahadeen learned how to shoot down their helicopters, and were much more adaptable than the Soviet army was. Russia insisted on victory, and got a stinging defeat. They should have pulled out years before with their pride intact.

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    Re: Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    It's kinda interesting to see, some of the same liberals here, who critisized the Bush administrations surge, stunningly silent on Obama throwing more troops at afghanistan.... Telling very telling indeed....
    I don't think a "surge" is in the works. Obama is searching for a way to prosecute the war against Alqaeda without accepting ownership of the entire country. This is what Bush should have done, but he was unable to think beyond his gut decisions.

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    Re: Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I don't think a "surge" is in the works. Obama is searching for a way to prosecute the war against Alqaeda without accepting ownership of the entire country. This is what Bush should have done, but he was unable to think beyond his gut decisions.



    Obama can't make decisions.


    How is 40k more troops not a surge?
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    Re: Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I don't think a "surge" is in the works. Obama is searching for a way to prosecute the war against Alqaeda without accepting ownership of the entire country. This is what Bush should have done, but he was unable to think beyond his gut decisions.

    This is defeat.


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    Re: Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I don't think a "surge" is in the works. Obama is searching for a way to prosecute the war against Alqaeda without accepting ownership of the entire country. This is what Bush should have done, but he was unable to think beyond his gut decisions.
    My friend, the next three years are going to be real hard for you unless you detach yourself emotionally from Obama.

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