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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    I don't know which is worse, the fact that the Iranian government is using three civilians as pawns like this, or that the victims of detainment "deserved" it according to their fellow Americans. No one deserves it, okay? It might happen because of an error in judgment, but they don't deserve to be captured by a theocracy and locked away forever.

    The callousness and lack of compassion of some people is astounding.

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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    With closed trials, though, they can make up whatever verdict they please. No evidence required.
    Reminds me of GITMO.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    they don't deserve to be captured by a theocracy and locked away forever.
    What kind of idiot goes into a crazy fundamentalist Islamic theocracy where they believe that all Americans are spies? It sucks that they put themselves into this position, but I don't feel like we should take action to rescue them from the inevitable consequences of their actions. Whether they deserved those consequences is irrelevant, they earned them through stupidity.

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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Spies don't go walking around sight seeing in the boonies...lol
    no way they could be providing recon

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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What kind of idiot goes into a crazy fundamentalist Islamic theocracy where they believe that all Americans are spies? It sucks that they put themselves into this position, but I don't feel like we should take action to rescue them from the inevitable consequences of their actions. Whether they deserved those consequences is irrelevant, they earned them through stupidity.
    A reminder for tired, lazy eyes: I said nothing about whether or not action should be taken to rescue, only that they don't deserve to be locked away. Mine is a humanitarian perspective. What ends up happening is separate from my observation.

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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I don't know which is worse, the fact that the Iranian government is using three civilians as pawns like this, or that the victims of detainment "deserved" it according to their fellow Americans. No one deserves it, okay? It might happen because of an error in judgment, but they don't deserve to be captured by a theocracy and locked away forever.
    They went to a war zone and they went near Iran or on the Iranian border most likely probably against the advice of anyone with at least a brain cell in their head. So yes they deserved it. Hopefully we do not risk the lives of troops and hopefully we do not risk just sending them a better hostage by sending a former president or someone else to go try to bargain for their release. The US should say **** em, this would ensure that a bunch idiot civilians do not do this **** again. The lives of troops should nor the lives of any of our politicians or former presidents is worth the life of any of those idiots. This is like where those idiot reporters go to a war zone and our troops have to risk their lives to either baby sit them or go rescue them from terrorist scum.


    The callousness and lack of compassion of some people is astounding.
    I do have compassion,however its not misplaced on morons who happen to be civilians going to a war zone(Iraq) and going near or on the border of dictator's country(Iran). If we end up sending troops, a politician, former president/politician or some one else to go say their sorry asses then my compassion will be on the individuals risking their ass to go try to save those sorry ****s.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Reminds me of GITMO.
    GITMO just died. (GITMO was the name of my main 85Rb trapping laser)
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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    I have to question the intelligence of anyone who would go to this area on "Vacation", be dumb enough to believe people would think anyone would travel half way around the world to a war zone for a good time in rugged terrain in a part of the world where everyone with half a brain knows the locals are suspicious of outsiders even if they are from the next village, let alone Americans who are hated in much of the middle east.

    There is more than one lesson to be learned in all this, and not the least is the blanket statement that Americans are arrogant and stupid does apply to some. These three are either mentally challenged or extremely arrogant, or one or more of them could be spies.
    The story sends a message world wide that some Nations regardless of their other faults protect and defend their borders and the rest of the world knows it now if they didn't before.
    I would like to see these idiots sent home but not molly coddles and not be felt sorry for their utter stupidity.

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