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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And on that note, why does Iran have to be dicks about this? It should be obvious to them by now that these kids are just dumbasses and not spies. They're just trying to be douches because the kids are American.
    Would you like some links to the numerous videos of Iran publicly hanging young men in the streets in recent years? For among other things, apparently for homosexual acts between consenting adults.

    If you aren't aware of the nature of the current Iranian Regime, I suggest emergency remedial education.

    To answer your questing in the Vulgate, they have to act like dicks because they are dicks, and no amount of scruffy beards or head-wound table cloths can conceal this from anyone making a frank appraisal.
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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    First off.. Hiking in Iraq... Secondly hiking near the Iranian border...and finally being American and doing so... yea, these guys are either spies or brain dead..
    Spies don't go walking around sight seeing in the boonies...lol
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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    I think it's more like they see this as a first-class PR opportunity.

    You know what?

    They're right.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Its probably all going to end up being a situation like we had in North Korea with the jounalists being snatched. One of our hero politicians will travel to Iran as a private citizen, confess to Ahmadinejad that yes they were spies. Shed a tear, tell him how sorry we are. Ask ever-so politely for a pardon. One will be granted. They'll be sent home and start grooming up for their nail-biting interview with Katie Kouric. Give it two months and the book deal or mini series will come next. The only question is which politician is it going to be to throw America under the bus again: Carter or Clinton?

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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I'm having a hard time feeling for these three. . . while I don't want their heads lopped off I only feel sorry for their stupidity in thier actions - they thought they'd be able to slip around such a controlled and war-torn area without being swept up into the storm.
    Agreed. I do feel bad for them in the sense that they were probably raised by parents who did not prepare them for living in the real world.

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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Benzin388 View Post
    Its probably all going to end up being a situation like we had in North Korea with the jounalists being snatched. One of our hero politicians will travel to Iran as a private citizen, confess to Ahmadinejad that yes they were spies. Shed a tear, tell him how sorry we are. Ask ever-so politely for a pardon. One will be granted. They'll be sent home and start grooming up for their nail-biting interview with Katie Kouric. Give it two months and the book deal or mini series will come next. The only question is which politician is it going to be to throw America under the bus again: Carter or Clinton?
    I hope not - we HAVE to stop doing that crap on behalf of people's stupidity.
    We can't keep bargaining with other countries - and with Iran, we have no bargaining chips that I see. People realy need to take responsibility for their own actions and own up without a war starting.
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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    I do not think the USA should send anyone to bail these dumb asses out, let Iran execute them. This will send a message to any future dumb asses that A do not go into war zones and B do not go anywhere near a country that is ruled by a dictator. Hopefully they do not send in some high ranking politician or former president to go rescue them or risk the lives of troops for those worthless sacks of ****.

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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    ARTICLE: AFP: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran


    Apparently, the Iranians need to have someone explain amnesty for illegal immigrants to them.
    What were they allegedly spying on?

    Funny how the Iranians leave those details out. Usually when you catch spies you know their spies because they have documents, or sophisticated equipment, or a handler. Being vehicle-less in the mountains with only a backpack seems like pretty ****ty spying to me.

    With closed trials, though, they can make up whatever verdict they please. No evidence required.
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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    To answer your questing in the Vulgate, they have to act like dicks because they are dicks, and no amount of scruffy beards or head-wound table cloths can conceal this from anyone making a frank appraisal.
    I think that in the end, all humans are capable of rational, logical thought. That instead of them acting like dicks because they are, it's they act like dicks because they choose to. In which case, they are able to change their actions if they so choose as well. In which case, I believe they should change their behavior. But a lot of this also has to do with the fundamental theocracy which dominates the Iranian government. Theocracies often lead to the abandonment of logic and reason.
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    Re: Three US citizens facing spying charges in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think the USA should send anyone to bail these dumb asses out, let Iran execute them. This will send a message to any future dumb asses that A do not go into war zones and B do not go anywhere near a country that is ruled by a dictator. Hopefully they do not send in some high ranking politician or former president to go rescue them or risk the lives of troops for those worthless sacks of ****.

    Stupid hippies.
    I think that on some level we have interest in that our citizens are being prosecuted for things they obviously didn't do. I think Iran is probably going to try to hold on to them as bargaining chips, wanting release of prisoners on our side for their return. To which I say they don't quite understand the type of people they have. We have cities dedicated to worthless yippies such as Boulder (I think one of those guys is actually from Boulder). And to demand the release of actual murders for these guys isn't going to net Iran what they think it will. I do think there is reason to invest effort of some type to get them back. But we also cannot allow ourselves to be bullied because of it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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