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    Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

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    Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used 'Electronic Means' to Connect with Terrorists
    By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS
    Nov. 9, 2009

    U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.
    It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.
    One senior lawmaker said the CIA had, so far, refused to brief the intelligence committees on what, if any, knowledge they had about Hasan's efforts.
    CIA director Leon Panetta and the Director of National Intelligence, Dennis Blair, have been asked by Congress "to preserve" all documents and intelligence files that relate to Hasan, according to the lawmaker.
    On Sunday, Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) called for an investigation into whether the Army missed signs as to whether Hasan was an Islamic extremist.
    "If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have a zero tolerance," Lieberman told Fox News Sunday.
    Investigators want to know if Hasan maintained contact with a radical mosque leader from Virginia, Anwar al Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen and runs a web site that promotes jihad around the world against the U.S.
    In a blog posting early Monday titled "Nidal Hassan Did the Right Thing," Awlaki calls Hassan a "hero" and a "man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people."
    According to his site, Awlaki served as an imam in Denver, San Diego and Falls Church, Virginia.
    Interesting development going on here. Lieberman might be right.
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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Wow, the so the FBI was watching him for six months or so because he was an Islamist officer in the U.S. military, and now the CIA had been watching him for the same thing. A whole bunch of fellow Army officers had complained several times that he was an anti-American Islamist.

    Yet nobody ever made it a point to go visit this guy?

    Yeah, okay. If that is the case then a nice big portion of our intelligence community, the FBI, and the officer corp of the U.S. Army is an absolute joke...completely incompetent.
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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Well, this doesn't point to any real improvements to the boundaries between the intelligence agencies that were supposed to have been addressed by the Patriot Act.

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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    He was probably being used as an intelligence resource to locate and prevent any al-Qaeda plans for a terror attack.

    That he decided to go mad and shoot everyone was not, most likely, the result of a long planning, and the intelligence agencies could not put their finger on whether or not, when and how, will he do it.

    Individual attacks are very hard to prevent.
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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Individual attacks are very hard to prevent.
    VERY, very true. If someone really goes nuts and decides to go on a shooting rampage, this is almost impossible to prevent, and we have had very little success in doing so, historically.

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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Yeah, okay. If that is the case then a nice big portion of our intelligence community, the FBI, and the officer corp of the U.S. Army is an absolute joke...completely incompetent.
    It's starting to look more and more like this is the case, isn't it?

    Maybe they hoped he would lead them to some big Islamic fish. Or maybe what they had on him was so circumstantial, they couldn't really make a move yet.
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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Maybe they hoped he would lead them to some big Islamic fish. Or maybe what they had on him was so circumstantial, they couldn't really make a move yet.
    The former, most likely.
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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Maybe they hoped he would lead them to some big Islamic fish. Or maybe what they had on him was so circumstantial, they couldn't really make a move yet.
    In the case of the latter, just holding fanatical views in the U.S. isn't a crime. He would have had to act on those views in a way that was criminal before he could be arrested. I'm surprised, however, that he wasn't given a discharge in light of his problems with performing his role.

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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Wow, the so the FBI was watching him for six months or so because he was an Islamist officer in the U.S. military, and now the CIA had been watching him for the same thing. A whole bunch of fellow Army officers had complained several times that he was an anti-American Islamist.

    Yet nobody ever made it a point to go visit this guy?

    Yeah, okay. If that is the case then a nice big portion of our intelligence community, the FBI, and the officer corp of the U.S. Army is an absolute joke...completely incompetent.
    That's what I've been saying.

    Our security is, regardless of the man's intention, only as good as our security front-line is.

    You tell that whenever there is any sort of distrubing attack, such as the Fort Hood incident, that there is "Epic Fail" written all over the FBI and CIA's front door.
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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    I'm going to throw out something far fetched here. I wonder if this latest news on the hikers has anything to do with this case. The fact that Hasan is alive and may eventually be put on trial, and then these folks being charged with espionage......as some type of leverage? Could this guy be tied to Iran and/or al Qaeda?

    Iran Reportedly Charges 3 Detained American Hikers With Espionage - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com
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