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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    DoD regulations prohibit soldiers from being members of extemist orginizations and/or criminal gangs. Hence, it's illegal.
    I'll admit, I'm not a hugely boned up on laws. But wouldn't that make it against regulations, not "illegal" in the sense it seemed you were using? Or do you simply mean illegal as in, not allowed, not against the law/criminal?

    When's the last time that any of those groups pulled something like this? Name one.
    You mean shoot up a U.S. Military Base? Not to my knowledge. Than again, before last week, the same could be said about Muslims. But just stupid illegal murdering in general?

    This KKK member, his son, and other members on trial for murder, rape, and obstruction of justice

    This KKK leader charged with murder after being released from prison

    This Neo-Nazi killed 1, critically injured 2 with a gun and hatchet.

    This Neo-Nazi kept in prison due to attempts at inciting murder of blacks and threats of murder

    Yes, you're absolutely right, these groups don't do anything. Pure as the wind driven snow. And this is just off a quick google search, and focusing only on murder. Not even factoring in rapes, beatings, and vandalisms.

    When you consider how Muslims think of all non-Muslims as infadels and not worthy to live, then Muslims could easily fall into the same category. Ever been to Mosque with other Muslims? Wanna take a guess why it will never happen? That's right, because you're an infadel and you won't be allowed in the place.
    Really? All muslims think that? I'm glad I have your amazing knowledge to inform me of that. Lalia, I'm sad, I didn't know you consider me the infadel and that I'm not worthy to live. I mean, he did say all muslims believe that so you must because he said so and I mean...it can't be that he's hysterically over reacting and over exaggerating due to it helping his ability to push his xenophobic, anti-consitution political agenda...right?

    The Constitution is great. I think it should be used more to protect my right to, "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", than the rights of religious nutjobs to try and kill me. I'm funny like that.
    Ah so you're an "activist" that picks and chooses what parts to follow.

    Yeah, tell that to the families of those 13 dead soldiers. 14, if you count the baby that one woman was carrying. 46 Casualties, minuscule, yeah, ok. Ever been shot before?
    Awww. Appeals to emotion. I thought Rush said only liberals do that?

    Yes, he was one man in 2.5 MILLION. That is miniscule. It is a horrible, horrendous tragedy. You trying to play on emotion, rather poorly as well, doesn't change facts. I know that may hurt you inside, but it doesn't.

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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not allowed, regardless of rank.
    I remember watching a C-Span where former Marine General(and Commadant) James Jones(now Obama's NSA advisor) was able to delineate what he thought were weaknesses in the current military structure and deployability, and that our forces as they were aligned(this was pre-9/11) and used in combat would not be sufficient to handle two MTW(major theaters of war) simultaneously. But he was circumspect, respectful, direct and open with his assesment.

    It can be done at that level. It is somewhat questioning publically, but only after being asked publically by those who oversee the military, for an assesment. A Major has no place in that discussion, much less just showing up to a function and doing so without permission.
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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'll admit, I'm not a hugely boned up on laws. But wouldn't that make it against regulations, not "illegal" in the sense it seemed you were using? Or do you simply mean illegal as in, not allowed, not against the law/criminal?
    A soldier can be court martialed and sent to prison for violating Army Regulations, so by that logic, the regs are the law.



    You mean shoot up a U.S. Military Base? Not to my knowledge. Than again, before last week, the same could be said about Muslims. But just stupid illegal murdering in general?
    Well, that's where you would be wrong. A Muslim soldier launched a grenade attack on fellow soldiers in Kuwait back in '03. The levels of violence from Muslim soldiers against fellow soldiers is un-matched by any other group of nut jobs. And, that's just the stuff we've heard about. We all know that the Lamestream Media is going to report any unflattering stories about Muslims, unless there's a large loss of life. If this dipstick would have only wounded one person, I doubt we would have even heard about it.

    This KKK member, his son, and other members on trial for murder, rape, and obstruction of justice

    This KKK leader charged with murder after being released from prison

    This Neo-Nazi killed 1, critically injured 2 with a gun and hatchet.

    This Neo-Nazi kept in prison due to attempts at inciting murder of blacks and threats of murder

    Yes, you're absolutely right, these groups don't do anything. Pure as the wind driven snow. And this is just off a quick google search, and focusing only on murder. Not even factoring in rapes, beatings, and vandalisms.
    I enver said that and you damn well know it!



    Really? All muslims think that? I'm glad I have your amazing knowledge to inform me of that. Lalia, I'm sad, I didn't know you consider me the infadel and that I'm not worthy to live. I mean, he did say all muslims believe that so you must because he said so and I mean...it can't be that he's hysterically over reacting and over exaggerating due to it helping his ability to push his xenophobic, anti-consitution political agenda...right?
    Go to a mosque. See if they let you past the foryer.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I remember watching a C-Span where former Marine General(and Commadant) James Jones(now Obama's NSA advisor) was able to delineate what he thought were weaknesses in the current military structure and deployability, and that our forces as they were aligned(this was pre-9/11) and used in combat would not be sufficient to handle two MTW(major theaters of war) simultaneously. But he was circumspect, respectful, direct and open with his assesment.

    It can be done at that level. It is somewhat questioning publically, but only after being asked publically by those who oversee the military, for an assesment. A Major has no place in that discussion, much less just showing up to a function and doing so without permission.
    He was also a former officer, not serving on active duty, nor wearing a uniform, when he made those comments. A former major, not currently serving on active, nor reserve status, wearing civilian clothes can say those things, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post



    Go to a mosque. See if they let you past the foryer.

    I know for a fact that they allow non-muslims to enter the Mosque in Jerusalem.

    Don't state things you cannot back up.
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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'll admit, I'm not a hugely boned up on laws. But wouldn't that make it against regulations, not "illegal" in the sense it seemed you were using? Or do you simply mean illegal as in, not allowed, not against the law/criminal?



    You mean shoot up a U.S. Military Base? Not to my knowledge. Than again, before last week, the same could be said about Muslims. But just stupid illegal murdering in general?

    This KKK member, his son, and other members on trial for murder, rape, and obstruction of justice

    This KKK leader charged with murder after being released from prison

    This Neo-Nazi killed 1, critically injured 2 with a gun and hatchet.

    This Neo-Nazi kept in prison due to attempts at inciting murder of blacks and threats of murder

    Yes, you're absolutely right, these groups don't do anything. Pure as the wind driven snow. And this is just off a quick google search, and focusing only on murder. Not even factoring in rapes, beatings, and vandalisms.



    Really? All muslims think that? I'm glad I have your amazing knowledge to inform me of that. Lalia, I'm sad, I didn't know you consider me the infadel and that I'm not worthy to live. I mean, he did say all muslims believe that so you must because he said so and I mean...it can't be that he's hysterically over reacting and over exaggerating due to it helping his ability to push his xenophobic, anti-consitution political agenda...right?



    Ah so you're an "activist" that picks and chooses what parts to follow.



    Awww. Appeals to emotion. I thought Rush said only liberals do that?

    Yes, he was one man in 2.5 MILLION. That is miniscule. It is a horrible, horrendous tragedy. You trying to play on emotion, rather poorly as well, doesn't change facts. I know that may hurt you inside, but it doesn't.
    You're citing Domestic Terrorists that do **** all compared International Terrorists that blow **** up and have much stricter rules for who they hate and how to go about dealing with them? Just wondering.

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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I know for a fact that they allow non-muslims to enter the Mosque in Jerusalem.

    Don't state things you cannot back up.
    Can you back that up? I mea, while you're fussing about me making statements that I can't back up and all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Can you back that up? I mea, while you're fussing about me making statements that I can't back up and all.
    The one in Jerusalem is more is less a museum when it's not in session. Just got to respect the basic hijab traditions


    There's a mosque in Raleigh, NC that (if you're really interested) you can walk in, but I don't see why you would want to..?
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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    The one in Jerusalem is more is less a museum when it's not in session. Just got to respect the basic hijab traditions


    There's a mosque in Raleigh, NC that (if you're really interested) you can walk in, but I don't see why you would want to..?


    I figgered it was probably something like that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I figgered it was probably something like that.
    But this is coming from (me) a non-muslim with a very basic understanding of Islam.

    I bet it's a completely different experience for a Muslim from.. say... Indonesia.
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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