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    State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting

    State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting For Speaking His Mind - cbs13.com

    Nov 6, 2009 9:59 pm US/Pacific

    SACRAMENTO (CBS13) ― A state worker is recovering after a bloody brawl at a union hall. He says members of the local SEIU 1000 beat him up and sent him to the hospital all because he wanted to expose allegedl corruption within the union.

    Ken Hamidi is a state worker at the California Franchise Tax Board. Last night he walked into a union hall in Sacramento for an SEIU local 1000 meeting.

    "We had every right to be here, very simple; it wasn't anything private or anything exclusive," said Hamidi.

    But Hamidi says the union members did not want him there.

    "Three, four people jumped at me, wrestled with me, then did all that," said Hamidi. "I was covered in blood and then over to the emergency room."

    Photos of Hamidi in the hospital show him bloodied from the brawl. So why did this happen? Besides being a state worker, Hamidi says he's an unpaid reporter for a cable access show and a vocal critic of the SEIU. He calls the state workers' union corrupt.
    How is it that to find this story required a search and was not on the nightly news? SEIU rank and file members that pull this stuff will never face any jail time and I would like to know why the law does not apply to any one or any group that supports Obama. It was clear early on when the Black Panthers facing sentencing were released at Obama's orders that we were facing an era of lawlessness for those who support this Socialist administration. If you take the time to read the srory you wil find the last sentence tells a somber story.
    No criminal charges have been filed in this case.

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    Re: State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting

    You're going to need something more than anecdotal incidents to validate your anti-labor sentiments, though given your reference to the administration as "socialist" despite its fundamentally capitalist nature, we both know the likelihood of you generating something more substantive.

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    Re: State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    You're going to need something more than anecdotal incidents to validate your anti-labor sentiments, though given your reference to the administration as "socialist" despite its fundamentally capitalist nature, we both know the likelihood of you generating something more substantive.
    Nice try but your typical misrepresentation of what I said will not hold up to the light of day. I never used the word Union and in talking about SEIU I never made an all inclusive statement that could be construed to encompass all Unions.

    As to the administration being Socialist I was being generous by leaving Communist out of my statements.
    Obama has surrounded himself with self proclaimed Socialists and Communists not to mention wildly dangerous radicals including a convicted Bomber and other jail birds.

    As to him being a capitalist, I thank you for the opening to point out his many statements about redistribution of wealth which is by any standard NOT capitalism by any stretch. It is pure but not so simple Socialist/ Communist ideology that is not compatible with our form of Government.

    Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered - Google Videos

    I know the liberals are acting like their sports team won the world championship when it comes to Obama's election but it's time to face the truth that he lied not just to those of us who could see it from the outset but he has lied to you Liberals too and given false hope to many who like those thousands of who lined up on blimd faith and false notions they were going to receive Obama bucks from the Messiah.
    It's not easy to admit you have been duped but it's better to come to grips with the facts and the truth than it is to continue to deny the obvious.
    To fail to do so early only puts off the inevitable and it does not make the pain easier to take.

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    Re: State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Nice try but your typical misrepresentation of what I said will not hold up to the light of day. I never used the word Union and in talking about SEIU I never made an all inclusive statement that could be construed to encompass all Unions.
    Neither did I use the term "union" or claim that you'd made any such statement. I merely commented that you seemed to be promoting some anti-labor sentiment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    As to the administration being Socialist I was being generous by leaving Communist out of my statements.
    Obama has surrounded himself with self proclaimed Socialists and Communists not to mention wildly dangerous radicals including a convicted Bomber and other jail birds.

    As to him being a capitalist, I thank you for the opening to point out his many statements about redistribution of wealth which is by any standard NOT capitalism by any stretch. It is pure but not so simple Socialist/ Communist ideology that is not compatible with our form of Government.

    Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered - Google Videos

    I know the liberals are acting like their sports team won the world championship when it comes to Obama's election but it's time to face the truth that he lied not just to those of us who could see it from the outset but he has lied to you Liberals too and given false hope to many who like those thousands of who lined up on blimd faith and false notions they were going to receive Obama bucks from the Messiah.
    It's not easy to admit you have been duped but it's better to come to grips with the facts and the truth than it is to continue to deny the obvious.
    To fail to do so early only puts off the inevitable and it does not make the pain easier to take.
    Me? I'd have been "duped" if I was a liberal or a Democrat looking for Obama as a source of progressivism, rather than an anarcho-communist who recognized his interest in the preservation of capitalism since the beginning of his campaign. There is nothing even remotely socialist about an administration that does not seek the public ownership and management of the means of production; "wealth redistribution" is nowhere near sufficient to constitute "socialism."

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    Re: State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    You're going to need something more than anecdotal incidents to validate your anti-labor sentiments, though given your reference to the administration as "socialist" despite its fundamentally capitalist nature, we both know the likelihood of you generating something more substantive.
    Anecdotal? The guy was beaten by the goddamn SEIU!

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    Re: State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Anecdotal?
    Yeah. Thanks for confirming exactly what I just said; that was helpful.

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    Re: State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting

    union folk beating up people who won't cooperate?

    anecdotal

    LOL!

    why, sometimes union guys beat up others so bad the victims bleed

    and the open wounds scab over

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    Re: State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting

    Very well. Can you refer to any peer-reviewed study that indicates that there is an inordinately high rate of beatings committed by union members or organizers as a result of their political leanings or some related factor? Thanks.

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    Re: State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Very well. Can you refer to any peer-reviewed study that indicates that there is an inordinately high rate of beatings committed by union members or organizers as a result of their political leanings or some related factor? Thanks.
    Could you provide a peer reviewed article demostrating some connection between Leftists and Reality? (Please submit no references to articles written in crayon.)
    Quod scripsi, scripsi

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    Re: State Worker Beat Up At SEIU Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Could you provide a peer reviewed article demostrating some connection between Leftists and Reality? (Please submit no references to articles written in crayon.)
    I'm glad you asked! Refer to Screpanti's Capitalist Forms and the Essence of Capitalism:

    This article proposes a classification of capitalist forms on the basis of two concepts, 'property rights regimes' (PRRs) and 'accumulation governance structures' (AGSs). The former defines the way in which the ownership of wealth and surplus value is distributed, the latter the institutional systems governing the uses of surplus value to sustain accumulation. Three PRRs - 'concentrated private property', 'diffused private property' and 'state property' - and four AGSs - 'goods markets', 'companies markets', 'external hierarchies' and 'internal hierarchies' - are defined. Various historical forms of capitalism are described as resulting from particular combinations of PRRs and AGSs. Then a few ideal types are outlined: 'classical capitalism', 'market-oriented corporate capitalism' and 'bank-oriented corporate capitalism'. Finally a hypothesis is advanced as to how capitalism evolves, namely that historical transformations of PRRs and AGSs tend to pave the way for the emergence of 'autonomous capital': accumulation is controlled through complex systems of external hierarchies among firms; the large concerns which are in command of these hierarchical structures are collectively self-owned and formally controlled by their managers through strategic cross-shareholding; no external shareholder exerts effective control.
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