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Obama says it's now Senate's turn on health care

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The Associated Press: Obama says it's now Senate's turn on health care
(AP) – 22 minutes ago

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama says it's now up to the Senate to take the baton from the House and pass a bill aimed at overhauling the nation's health care system.

The House narrowly passed a health care bill Saturday night. The Senate has yet to schedule a debate on its version of health care legislation, and Republicans are pledging to stop the Democratic measure from passing Congress.

Obama gave a brief statement on the health care initiative in the Rose Garden on Sunday after returning from the presidential retreat at Camp David.

The president says he's confident the Senate will pass a health care bill. He assured senators they will join House members in looking back on the passage of health care reform as their finest moment in public service.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Senate now in healthcare spotlight
Reuters
By John Whitesides

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3041744020091108?sp=true

WASHINGTON, Nov 7 (Reuters) - After a narrow win in the U.S. House of Representatives, President Barack Obama's fight for a sweeping healthcare overhaul moves to the U.S. Senate where it faces a difficult path to approval.

The Senate's version of healthcare reform has been stalled as Democratic leader Harry Reid awaits cost estimates from congressional budget analysts and searches for an approach that can win the 60 votes needed to overcome Republican procedural hurdles.

Hopefully the Senate will live up to the expectations we have that these are more thoughtful in their deliberations than the House. It's been seen that the majority in the House are more interested in appeasing Obama snd pelosi than sticking up for the People and the Constitution.
 
Well, expectations are theoretically supposed to reflect constituencies in the House but they did not. In fact, back room deals were made to get 54% of the House "blue dogs" to vote with the most liberal members in Congress this country's ever seen. The basic hope was the conservative Democrats would vote who got them there - but that didn't happen.

Why would it be different in the Senate?
 
Well, expectations are theoretically supposed to reflect constituencies in the House but they did not. In fact, back room deals were made to get 54% of the House "blue dogs" to vote with the most liberal members in Congress this country's ever seen. The basic hope was the conservative Democrats would vote who got them there - but that didn't happen.

Why would it be different in the Senate?

The Duma has spoken.
The Politburo is standing on guard ready to please The Mighty Edsel.

Welcome to the USSA.

Cap and Tax and Spend.
Trillions of government spending.
Government Motors.
State run Medical.

Just a beauty way to go.

Da?

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The Duma has spoken.
The Politburo is standing on guard ready to please The Mighty Edsel.

Welcome to the USSA.

Cap and Tax and Spend.
Trillions of government spending.
Government Motors.
State run Medical.

Just a beauty way to go.

Da?

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Da.

I огорченное для думать для около меня камрад! Я буду хорошей марионеткой для политбюро в будущем. Простите моему вопросу.
 
What a bunch of WATB the conservatives are. I've been reading the multitude posts about the passing of the health care bill in the house last night. Such victimhood has never been more pathetically on display !!!!!


I am cheering, like the House did last night, when the bill passed. Decades of trying has never gotten this far. Here's to America !!!!
 
Well, expectations are theoretically supposed to reflect constituencies in the House but they did not. In fact, back room deals were made to get 54% of the House "blue dogs" to vote with the most liberal members in Congress this country's ever seen. The basic hope was the conservative Democrats would vote who got them there - but that didn't happen.

Why would it be different in the Senate?


What evidence do you have that they DIDN'T vote their constituencies wishes on this matter? Michaud certainly did, and so did Sanchez, and so did many many many more of the blue dogs who voted aye.


Group Commissions Poll To Prove To Blue Dogs Public Option Is Popular Among Their Constituents | The Plum Line

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Analysis: Public Option Is Likely Popular in Most Blue Dog Districts

Google
 
Da.

I огорченное для думать для около меня камрад! Я буду хорошей марионеткой для политбюро в будущем. Простите моему вопросу.

LOL.

Не беспокойтесь товарищ, мы позволим этому идти на этот раз. OK?

OK.

What a bunch of WATB the conservatives are. I've been reading the multitude posts about the passing of the health care bill in the house last night. Such victimhood has never been more pathetically on display !!!!!
What is it about freedom, and the Constitution you do not understand?

Just another product of our stellar public skoolz.

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What a bunch of WATB the conservatives are. I've been reading the multitude posts about the passing of the health care bill in the house last night. Such victimhood has never been more pathetically on display !!!!!


I am cheering, like the House did last night, when the bill passed. Decades of trying has never gotten this far. Here's to America !!!!

aw, c'mon, jackalope

until you can answer, well, ALL of the following grotesque objections, you're not being entirely serious

1. half a T cuts to m and m

2. mandates on individuals to buy that which they can't afford, fines if they don't, jail at the end

3. unfunded mandates on already bankrupt states, talk to difi and harry

4. dem governors ritter, gregoire, schweitzer and bill richardson have joined TN's phil bredesen as violent, vehement, vocal objectors to this forcing the states to underwrite hundreds of B's of obama's fantasies

5. ten years of taxes vs 6 or 7 years of bennies

6. the doc fixes

7. 1.4T, including the "fix"

8. how it's paid for---massive taxes, penalties, fines, mandates

9. the dire differences between house and senate creations

10. taxes on small biz and big biz, jobs killer

11. the fact that the cuts to m and m, huge part of how obama "pays for" crap, will never occur, destroying the deficit

12. taxes on the rich---dead letter in the senate

13. taxes on benefits---anathema to unions

14. taxes on insurers, manufacturers, pharmaceuticals

15. the incentive for employers to dump coverage

16. the crafting of all this in secret, dumped on membership and the public always at the last second
 
LOL.

Не беспокойтесь товарищ, мы позволим этому идти на этот раз. OK?

OK.


What is it about freedom, and the Constitution you do not understand?

Just another product of our stellar public skoolz.

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Quit speaking another language, it's against the board's TOS.

And, you're an assuming so and so, aren't you? The bulk of my schooling was in PRIVATE schools.

And the conservatives are still WATBs. H O L Y C R A P.

Their 'shenanigans' on the floor of the House yesterday were a sight. The signage at their 'tea parties' is disgusting. And the posts I've seen around the net about this health care bill. OH MY GAWDS. wah wah wah wah :2wave:
 
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LOL.

Не беспокойтесь товарищ, мы позволим этому идти на этот раз. OK?

OK.


What is it about freedom, and the Constitution you do not understand?

Just another product of our stellar public skoolz.

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Please cite what Obama has done that's illegal (please post a link to support your claim and not just rant).
 
aw, c'mon, jackalope

until you can answer, well, ALL of the following grotesque objections, you're not being entirely serious

1. half a T cuts to m and m

2. mandates on individuals to buy that which they can't afford, fines if they don't, jail at the end

3. unfunded mandates on already bankrupt states, talk to difi and harry

4. dem governors ritter, gregoire, schweitzer and bill richardson have joined TN's phil bredesen as violent, vehement, vocal objectors to this forcing the states to underwrite hundreds of B's of obama's fantasies

5. ten years of taxes vs 6 or 7 years of bennies

6. the doc fixes

7. 1.4T, including the "fix"

8. how it's paid for---massive taxes, penalties, fines, mandates

9. the dire differences between house and senate creations

10. taxes on small biz and big biz, jobs killer

11. the fact that the cuts to m and m, huge part of how obama "pays for" crap, will never occur, destroying the deficit

12. taxes on the rich---dead letter in the senate

13. taxes on benefits---anathema to unions

14. taxes on insurers, manufacturers, pharmaceuticals

15. the incentive for employers to dump coverage

16. the crafting of all this in secret, dumped on membership and the public always at the last second


I can answer some of them. But, I'm not feeling inclined to stretch my keyboarding muscles. Good heavens, the behavior of the conservatives on the floor of the House yesterday --- jesus! Combined with the over-the-top signage at Bachman's Tea Rant, and some of the posts I've seen, I just don't care much about the whining lies.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMdlcnK_MI4&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Unruly Republicans Disrupt Health Care Debate[/ame]

I object. I object. I object. I object.

JUST STFU ! That's the only thing I thought when I saw some of this crap.



I don't include your posts there, Prof :cool:

Plus, I've been sick the last few days so I'm less patient with nonsense.
 
The Duma has spoken.
The Politburo is standing on guard ready to please The Mighty Edsel.

Welcome to the USSA.

Cap and Tax and Spend.
Trillions of government spending.
Government Motors.
State run Medical.

Just a beauty way to go.

Da?

.
Let's do it for Teddy.
 
I can answer some of them. But, I'm not feeling inclined to stretch my keyboarding muscles. Good heavens, the behavior of the conservatives on the floor of the House yesterday --- jesus! Combined with the over-the-top signage at Bachman's Tea Rant, and some of the posts I've seen, I just don't care much about the whining lies.

YouTube- Unruly Republicans Disrupt Health Care Debate

I object. I object. I object. I object.

JUST STFU ! That's the only thing I thought when I saw some of this crap.



I don't include your posts there, Prof :cool:

Plus, I've been sick the last few days so I'm less patient with nonsense.
Opposition was silenced in the Soviet Union too, comrade.
 
Opposition was silenced in the Soviet Union too, comrade.

Tell that to your conservative troll comrades in the House, comrade. You know, the ones who tried to shut up the political opposition and not allow them to be heard.


:roll:
 
What evidence do you have that they DIDN'T vote their constituencies wishes on this matter? Michaud certainly did, and so did Sanchez, and so did many many many more of the blue dogs who voted aye.

Well... theplumline links gives a 404 error. So scratch that one.

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/h...-prove-to-blue-dogs-public-option-is-popular/


This link (below) speculates only as it says...

"Ross's district itself, the Arkansas 4th, has not been polled publicly."


So they try and use logistic regression via how these districts voted for Obama and how much poverty they have, and come out with bogus nonsense numbers.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/09/analysis-public-option-is-likely.html

Not sure what the Google search link is supposed to prove ... just that Democrats are trying to do damage control for the 24 members who voted for the hijacking of liberty in the United States? Daily Kos is apparently on board with it so it must be non-biased. :shock:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source...og+districts&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=f856a575d939ef4

Correct me if I'm wrong, but blue dog Democrats are conservative leaning Democrats who primarily are elected in conservative leaning State districts, correct? And since your wonderful 3 links do not provide fact, but are hoping to validate - "likely popular" meaning, not sure and speculative... how about we wait and see? Unless of course you have a district by district breakdown the proves the contrary.... which you don't.

Keep towing that party line. Obama needs you now more than ever.
 
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until you can answer, well, ALL of the following grotesque objections, you're not being entirely serious

1. half a T cuts to m and m

I'll take the first one, just to show how dishonest the arguments coming from the GOP are.

These "cuts" would not be in Medicare, but in the Medicare Advantage program, which is actually a giveaway to private insurance.

Medicare Advantage is a private health insurance program that was designed to compete with the government-run Medicare but never has, it's costs have always been much higher.

MEDICARE vs. MEDICARE ADVANTAGE - washingtonpost.com

Such plans were introduced in the 1970s in an effort to cut Medicare costs. However, as the government sought to add coverage in underserved -- often rural -- areas, costs soared. According to the independent Medicare Payment Advisory Commission, Medicare Advantage now costs the government 14 percent more per beneficiary than traditional Medicare.

All the house HC bill does is move people off these plans back to actual medicare, saving the taxpayers billions in waste.
 
Let's do it for Teddy.

Teddy... the guy who liked to write letters to the Commies.

Let's not... and say we did.
Y'know... behave like a Democrat :)

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I'll take the first one, just to show how dishonest the arguments coming from the GOP are.

These "cuts" would not be in Medicare, but in the Medicare Advantage program, which is actually a giveaway to private insurance.

Medicare Advantage is a private health insurance program that was designed to compete with the government-run Medicare but never has, it's costs have always been much higher.

MEDICARE vs. MEDICARE ADVANTAGE - washingtonpost.com

All the house HC bill does is move people off these plans back to actual medicare, saving the taxpayers billions in waste.

no, joe, while it's true that medicare advantage is gonna be killed there are also massive cuts to m and m proper

and killing m-adv is hardly a winning defense

the prez has said now at least 50 times he gets 2/3 of his savings out of shaving wfa outta m and m

half a T cuts to m and m---premise to questions posed today by david gregory (mtp), stephy (this week), john king (cnn), chris wallace (fox)
 
Quit speaking another language, it's against the board's TOS.

And, you're an assuming so and so, aren't you? The bulk of my schooling was in PRIVATE schools.

And the conservatives are still WATBs. H O L Y C R A P.

Their 'shenanigans' on the floor of the House yesterday were a sight. The signage at their 'tea parties' is disgusting. And the posts I've seen around the net about this health care bill. OH MY GAWDS. wah wah wah wah :2wave:

Well... you must have done a lot of sleeping during class. Or was your school sponsored by Trinity United Church? Then I understand.

What is disgusting is what you folks are doing to The United States of America.

Where do you find the ability to do this under The Constitution?

Nowhere... but you folks don't care.

The only good thing is if this gets defeated totally... you SAPs will OWN it 100%

What a perverted mess.

The price of ignorance... the price of ignorance.
 
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