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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    I personally think the senate unfairly represents different amounts of people and as such should be seriously reformed or just given the ole boot altogether...but that's just this guy.
    This is not a direct Democracy. We do have an adversial relationship between the states and the Federal government. That is good. Decentralization of power is always good.

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Those are sections of the tax code, not the HC bill.

    The right wing is throwing all kinds of bs around, hoping to rile up the sheep.
    nice "try", joe, hope you didn't work too hard

    September 25, 2009
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    Ensign receives handwritten confirmation

    This doesn't happen often enough.

    Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.

    Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it "Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold."

    The note was a follow-up to Ensign's questioning at the markup.
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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    here's barthold's handwritten letter

    (his penmanship is worse than mine---LOL!)

    http://www.politico.com/static/PPM11...document2.html

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    I think out of all the arguments i have read so far, the American worry about the UHC bringing about more of a centralized government rather than a federal one as is the point of the American "republic", is definetly the most reasonable argument so far. Wouldnt it be better if indivisual states could have their own state health care system?
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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I think out of all the arguments i have read so far, the American worry about the UHC bringing about more of a centralized government rather than a federal one as is the point of the American "republic", is definetly the most reasonable argument so far. Wouldnt it be better if indivisual states could have their own state health care system?
    Yes, I agree, as long as pre-existing conditions weren't refused, everyone was covered, the costs didn't make it prohibitive, and the free market could continue to work. If that requires torte reform, then we ought to do that.

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I think out of all the arguments i have read so far, the American worry about the UHC bringing about more of a centralized government rather than a federal one as is the point of the American "republic", is definetly the most reasonable argument so far. Wouldnt it be better if indivisual states could have their own state health care system?
    Yes it would. Some States would opt not to provide health care. People that wanted to not pay for UHC would gravitate to those States, while those that choose to provide, and pay for everyone would gravitate to those States that had UHC.

    I wonder which States would go broke, and which States would have a population explosion.

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Yes, I agree, as long as pre-existing conditions weren't refused, everyone was covered, the costs didn't make it prohibitive, and the free market could continue to work. If that requires torte reform, then we ought to do that.
    Not gonna happen - tort reform requires sacrifices by the legal community of which Congress makes up a very reflective amount. They're not going to curb their own influence just like they won't curb their voting themselves pay increases.

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    The real question is, does this healthcare bill openly violate the constitution? And not just "in your view". But does it actually violate it?
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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Lieberman just said he thinks this could be the anvil that does in America.

    It is and it could. Just look at all the well managed, cost effective, timely... LOL... socialist medical systems.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Lieberman just said he thinks this could be the anvil that does in America.

    It is and it could. Just look at all the well managed, cost effective, timely... LOL... socialist medical systems.
    Could you name a few ineffective, untimely socialist medical systems?
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