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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Prof was just warned for asking you to re-write in better grammer. Obviously the mod misunderstood my intention, it was sincere, i didnt actually understand most of your points and if you could rewrite that id be happy to answer. No insult intended, my bad if it came across that way.
    please, no problem, i get it all the time, concerning my intelligibility

    from my view, i'm explaining extremely COMPLEX stuff

    personally, i think i do a marvelous job of simplifying (LOL!)

    it's the MATERIAL, not me

    our mods here, i've found, have been TOTAL CLASS

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    Now the Democrats need to try and remove those Dems who voted no by withdrawing funds for them from party coffers and running more progressive people against them.
    And they accuse the GOP of being intolerant of moderates. Hypocrisy much?

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well after looking at the final vote, 54% of the House "Blue Dogs" voted with the far left liberals in the House. I think conservative citizens and the media are making too much ado about how "blue" these Democrats are - after last nights vote, they're not that blue and more like "yellow" and not the kind of yellow that hearkens back to past century's, but yellow as in "cowardly". I did a quick tally - here's the list of "blue dogs" that voted AYE



    I got this info by comparing the list of Blue Dogs HERE with the AYE votes found HERE. I wouldn't put much faith in Senate "Blue Dogs" at all.

    The only way to make sure is to vote these bums out. Every single one on the list above. They've sold out their constituents.
    the options only allow me to press "thanks"

    there's no "THANKS!"

    or, "THANKS! THANKS! THANKS!!!"

    which is how eagerly your SCOOP i received

    i wouldn't call lieberman or landrieu or lincoln or BEN NELSON, et al, bluedogs

    they're senators

    they don't JOIN

    they see themselves as imperators, emperors

    they are to be courted

    DO NOT SWEAT IT

    lieberman, nelson, bayh, dorgan, pryor, lincoln, landrieu, conrad---these folks are NOT heath shulers (who's a really good guy, tho a horrible quarterback)

    lieberman MEANS WHAT HE SAYS, you have got to know that

    reid can't lose A ONE

    there are others whose names i don't know

    DO NOT SWEAT IT

    patience

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Health care vote: A majority of House members have voted to pass the health care bill Naples Daily News

    "A majority of House members have voted to pass the health care bill. The vote is continuing.

    Democratic leaders were hopeful they could pass the bill late Saturday, giving Obama his biggest victory since last November's historic election. Obama made a rare visit to Congress earlier in the day to meet with House Democrats in an effort to cement a majority to pass the legislation that is his top domestic priority."
    Well, it's through the Duma. Next to the Politburo.
    Duma... is that short for Dumbasses?

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991
    I prefer to call it "majority vote", but yeah if it comes down to that, it will be used.

    A HC bill will be passed, have no doubts.
    Strange how a few years and a couple of major elections can change ones perspective of an 'up or down' vote...

    Yes, a bill will be passed. Maybe not exactly what a liberal may have in mind, but not everything is perfect on the first try.
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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08
    I have thus far failed to see why healthcare is bad. It will save the lives of many millions of more Americans and give them access to a healthcare system that wont burden them financially. A major right has been secured here, and a bit of socialism in the system never hurt anyone

    I say this because i have first hand experience on the benefits and convienience of a national healthcare system.
    In bold...

    Strange how most everyone with UHC says this, rather than the opposite, contrary to what those opposed would have you believe...
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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I have thus far failed to see why healthcare is bad. It will save the lives of many millions of more Americans and give them access to a healthcare system that wont burden them financially. A major right has been secured here, and a bit of socialism in the system never hurt anyone

    I say this because i have first hand experience on the benefits and convienience of a national healthcare system.
    Then you are aware of policies like denying joint replacement surgery to fat people even though research show that there is no difference in success rates or benefits between thin people and fat people who have these procedures?

    Obese people 'should not be denied knee replacement' - Telegraph

    I fail to see the "benefits" of denying medical procedures for non medical reasons if you are under a "universal heath care" system.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-dentists.html

    Lack of dentists who will take NHS clients causing people to DYI dental care.
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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Easy Target View Post
    Then you are aware of policies like denying joint replacement surgery to fat people even though research show that there is no difference in success rates or benefits between thin people and fat people who have these procedures?
    The NHS does not deny such surgery to obese people. The article describes the indivisual choices of surgeons not to carry out the procedure. It is not the official position of the NHS. It does not specify the public/private sector anyway.

    Nick Fiddian, president of the British Association for Surgery of the Knee, said that it was "pretty rare" for patients to be turned away from surgery, which was decided on a case by case basis by the individual surgeon.
    If this is the case, you may find a different surgeon within the UHC (NHS). Simple as.
    There have been times when family members have been denied a CAT scan because they felt there was nothing wrong, after extensive diagnosis. So what did they do? They asked a different surgeon under the national healthcare. Its no different in the private sector.


    I fail to see the "benefits" of denying medical procedures for non medical reasons if you are under a "universal heath care" system.
    There is no denial of medical procedures going on. You misread. I still fail to see whats so aweful about affordable health care.
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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    l• Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.

    • Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years."
    Those are sections of the tax code, not the HC bill.

    The right wing is throwing all kinds of bs around, hoping to rile up the sheep.

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Easy Target View Post
    Then you are aware of policies like denying joint replacement surgery to fat people even though research show that there is no difference in success rates or benefits between thin people and fat people who have these procedures?

    Obese people 'should not be denied knee replacement' - Telegraph

    I fail to see the "benefits" of denying medical procedures for non medical reasons if you are under a "universal heath care" system.
    Thank God I won't be dependent on this slurry... it's the masses that are going to get kicked in the teeth, the balls and ass when this gets passed and massaged in future years.

    Isn't medicare, medicaid and all the other socialist medical programs in Europe and Kanuckistan just great?

    Think of all those illegals you'll be subsidizing.
    Think of how "Free" will be abused and corrupted.
    Think about paying more and more and getting less and less from fewer and fewer medical care givers.

    Enjoy it.

    Suckers.

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