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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    I personally think the senate unfairly represents different amounts of people and as such should be seriously reformed or just given the ole boot altogether...but that's just this guy.
    As is was it's purpose.

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    As is was it's purpose.
    Oh, I'm aware what the purpose was. It doesn't mean I agree with it. It was a consolation made long ago that just wasn't that well thought up. I don't mind have two branches of legislation, I just would prefer that the system worked better than it did. It's not very democratic for a person in , say, Wyoming to have 50 times the representation of the national average. I have lived in low population states, but the system that exists in the senate right now does very poorly at portraying the will of the average citizen.

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Goodness, 220-215. A squeaker of that level is rare. That means that only an once less of support in the Senate will kill the bill. At least I can hope.
    The Republicans can always see what they can do to stall everything, and block the bill until.......... After next year's elections?
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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

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    I just heard that the only Republican to vote for the bill was none other than Joseph Cao. Interesting....

    Of course, liberals are now treating him like a hero. Kinda like how they treated Joe Liberman as a hero. Ha.
    if they think mr cao is gonna portend any kinda red agreement upstairs, well...

    LOLOLOL!

    mr cao, bless his heart, is a devout catholic vietnamese from louisiana

    the point---the catholic bishops at 2am last nite brokered the deal between pelosi and stupak which allowed the stupak amendment to get to the floor

    just the day before, nancy slammed the door on liberal, robust PO proponent anthony wiener, new york, msnbc's favorite dem

    no amendment for wiener

    but stupak, anti abortionist...

    quite clearly, if nancy had said no to stupak, her bill was dead

    no other reason for her 2am surrender

    so stupak got to the floor, the bishops bounced with joy when it passed (with 100% republican support)

    hence, cao

    there aren't any vietnamese catholics in reid's roundhouse

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Oh, I'm aware what the purpose was. It doesn't mean I agree with it. It was a consolation made long ago that just wasn't that well thought up. I don't mind have two branches of legislation, I just would prefer that the system worked better than it did. It's not very democratic for a person in , say, Wyoming to have 50 times the representation of the national average. I have lived in low population states, but the system that exists in the senate right now does very poorly at portraying the will of the average citizen.
    To be fair to you, it was ****ed up by the 17th(???) amendment.

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    To be fair to you, it was ****ed up by the 17th(???) amendment.
    Agreed, and yes it was the 17th. To be fair I suppose I was a bit blunt with my first post. It's not the idea of a Senate that I have a problem with as much as the way it is run and the unfair balance of power.

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Oh, I'm aware what the purpose was. It doesn't mean I agree with it. It was a consolation made long ago that just wasn't that well thought up....
    It was a "consolation"? What do you mean?

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Keep in mind that they can pass this in the Senate without 60 votes. They like to call it the Nuclear option.

    There is a profound sadness that comes from the knowledge that so many citizens haven't been able to see the danger of this and it's implications on the future. I continue to stress the study of the past as way to see into the future if we fail to recognize warning signs and avoid the same mistakes. The problem is so many are so busy celebrating Obama's election without any thought being given his plans and what they are clearly leading to.
    As to what I said earlier about honoring ones oath it's about preserve, protect, and defend from all enemies both foreign and domestic. A vote for this Health plan is to fail to honor that portion about, preserve, protect, and defend because as I see it, it's a step toward the Constitution's continued dismantling begun by Obama.
    The closer he gets to his goals the further we will get from our rights. I believe this because I do study history and it's warnings are not a puzzle to be solved they are easy to see if you just open your eyes.

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Saturday was a sad day for American ideals, American values and America in general. God help us all if this atrocity ever passes the Senate.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    I personally think the senate unfairly represents different amounts of people and as such should be seriously reformed or just given the ole boot altogether...but that's just this guy.
    I used to think that too when McCain and the other RINOs sabotaged our bills when we were in charge
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