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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Well we're ****ed, unless some of the Blue Dog Senators stick to their guns.
    i'm surprised at your lack of patience

    by the end of tomorrow you'll see how much trouble they've got themselves in

    this thing has NO CHANCE upstairs

    as you know

    lieberman was mcchrystal clear, he's not alone, and he means business

    politics requires patience, friend

    for now, let them enjoy their happy talk, laugh inwardly

    see moves ahead, even if nancy can't

    the disposition of the senate is manifest, has been for a month

    it's not gonna change cuzza a one vote victory down in strongarm land

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    The very fact it was that close will keep the Senate from getting to 60
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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    Now the Democrats need to try and remove those Dems who voted no by withdrawing funds for them from party coffers and running more progressive people against them.
    I hate to break it to yah, but, it's dead in the water. We have 2 congressional houses with 2 different versions of the same bill. You know what that means? the senate will never pass it and even if they do, once the differences are worked out, they will have to pass it all over again. which will never happen.

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Can you imagine the court challenges to this bill if it ever became law?
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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    I just heard that the only Republican to vote for the bill was none other than Joseph Cao. Interesting....

    Of course, liberals are now treating him like a hero. Kinda like how they treated Joe Liberman as a hero. Ha.

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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i'm surprised at your lack of patience

    by the end of tomorrow you'll see how much trouble they've got themselves in

    this thing has NO CHANCE upstairs

    as you know

    lieberman was mcchrystal clear, he's not alone, and he means business

    politics requires patience, friend

    for now, let them enjoy their happy talk, laugh inwardly

    see moves ahead, even if nancy can't

    the disposition of the senate is manifest, has been for a month

    it's not gonna change cuzza a one vote victory down in strongarm land


    Alright Prof, Ill play along, pardon my cynicism for Washington to do anything right. When is the Senate expected to vote on it?
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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    the senate had no chance to get to 60 from the start

    reid can't lose ONE

    and lieberman is one tuff sonofabitch

    also ben nelson, evan bayh, kent conrad, lincoln, landrieu, pryor, dorgan...

    if nancy had got 230 or so, then maybe some teeny change might be imaginable

    but she leveraged to the max and all know it

    had to hold guns to heads to get her paper thin margin on paper

    it did not OFFICIALLY die tonite, tis true

    which, congrats to the other side, i guess

    but then, flip side, they are signed on the dotted line under m&m cuts, the criminalization of the uninsured (bye bye, youth vote), supremely cycnical accounting, taxes on small biz, and much more

    how do you think they manage to spend 1.2 to 1.4T and still come out ahead of the deficit?

    taxes, fines, penalties, mandates---in trillions

    and this thing just goes on and on, every word wounding their side

    they're gonna PAY politically, bigtime

    the house bill is exactly the wrong shape for the senate, in addition, pelosi has been steering the wrong direction from the start

    you'll see by tomorrow nite, this is a HUGE problem for the party of obama

    hang in
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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    I personally think the senate unfairly represents different amounts of people and as such should be seriously reformed or just given the ole boot altogether...but that's just this guy.

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    So the list of to be unemployed democrats has been finalized for 2010? Aces.
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    Re: House approves landmark healthcare reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Alright Prof, Ill play along, pardon my cynicism for Washington to do anything right. When is the Senate expected to vote on it?
    i embrace your cynicism

    reid has said it might go into next year

    he can't get started til cbo answers a bunch of questions

    and then they're always on vacation

    that left em starting just before thanksgiving or so

    and then weeks of debating on the floor

    the last time it went on for months

    tell you the truth, i stopped following and covering health care after lieberman declared his filibuster

    i know jilting joe, and i know he means it

    they have NO chance, tonite is just politics

    and it's a nice (tho very mixed, because of the paltry margin) headline

    but down the months, they're gonna be catching hell to the max over all the crap that's in it

    even libs on this page don't support half a T cuts to m and m

    i have NEVER seen a dp lib defend that

    it ENDS medicare advantage---one quarter of our seniors

    you can't piss off seniors in this country and survive politically

    the fines on individuals, their criminalization

    even extreme libs don't go that far

    the senate takes forever, to answer your question

    you heard one of em say their new deadline is next year's state of the union

    then ron wyden (robust PO, oregon) pointed out that puts em in an election year, so no way

    reid then came back (as he always does, back and forth, back and forth) and said, no, we can do it quicker

    when is not really the issue

    lieberman is, and his more than half dozen friends

    and a 220 (including joseph cao---LOL!) is not gonna sway em

    you'll see

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