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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200911120022

    Right-wing websites including the Fox Nation have highlighted a question asked of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi at a November 9 press conference in Seattle by a local reporter who said, "Do you think it's fair to send people to jail for not buying health insurance?"

    In fact, the penalty under the House health care reform bill for failure to purchase insurance is a tax, not jail time.
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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Right-wing blogs run with reporter's false question on jail time under health bill | Media Matters for America

    Right-wing websites including the Fox Nation have highlighted a question asked of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi at a November 9 press conference in Seattle by a local reporter who said, "Do you think it's fair to send people to jail for not buying health insurance?"

    In fact, the penalty under the House health care reform bill for failure to purchase insurance is a tax, not jail time.
    First off, you are complaining about a partisan source by using a leftwing partisan source, so, your hypocracy aside.....the language is IN THE BILL to include fines and/or jail time, to be enforced possibly by the I.R.S. under U.S. tax code for failing to maintain government accepted insurance coverage, in addition, Pelosi was interviewed about it and they have her in her own words defending the jail provision.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    First off, you are complaining about a partisan source
    I'm complaining that source lied, bro.

    ...the language is IN THE BILL to include fines and/or jail time, to be enforced possibly by the I.R.S. under U.S. tax code for failing to maintain government accepted insurance coverage
    Show us the language, bro.

    Pelosi was interviewed about it and they have her in her own words defending the jail provision.
    There is no provision in the bill that imposes jail time on a person who fails to obtain health insurance. The penalty provided for in the bill is a tax.

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    I'm complaining that source lied, bro.

    Show us the language, bro.

    There is no provision in the bill that imposes jail time on a person who fails to obtain health insurance. The penalty provided for in the bill is a tax.
    You REALLY need to read the whole thread before posting. The penalty for not paying that tax is up to $250,000 and up to 5 years in jail.

    This bill amends many existing laws including the tax codes.

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Easy Target View Post
    The penalty for not paying that tax is up to $250,000 and up to 5 years in jail.
    Nope. That's the penalty for a person who "willfully" fails to pay the tax.

    Your assignment is find out what the term "willful failure" means, how hard it is to prove and how uncommon it is for a person to be prosecuted for it.
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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    In fact, the penalty under the House health care reform bill for failure to purchase insurance is a tax, not jail time.
    And failure to pay your taxes results in Jail time
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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Nope. That's the penalty for a person who "willfully" fails to pay the tax.

    Your assignment is find out what the term "willful failure" means, how hard it is to prove and how uncommon it is for a person to be prosecuted for it.
    I guess we can look at many of Obama's appointees for evidence of that, can't we? Or just ask Wesley Snipes.

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    JCT chief of staff thomas barthold confirms in handwritten letter to senator ensign that penalty for not paying fine is "up to a year in jail or $25000 dollar penalty"

    Ensign receives handwritten confirmation - Live Pulse - POLITICO.com

    pelosi and obama sure didn't deny it, either

    of course, they're both idiots

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Ben Nelson better listen to his constituents and quit taking money from the health insurance cartel.
    what stiff neck nelson "better" do or not do may be one thing

    what he's gonna do is another, and he's written it in nebraska stone---"for sure"

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    Re: House majority votes in favor Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    I'm complaining that source lied, bro.
    By using a source that you didn't correctly quote.

    Show us the language, bro.
    It's in the audio, since you like to go source hunting, have fun.

    There is no provision in the bill that imposes jail time on a person who fails to obtain health insurance.
    That is complete crap, it's in the bill, it's been discussed, it's been voted on, and Pelosi already said as much, it's out there.
    The penalty provided for in the bill is a tax.
    and/or jail time.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

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