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    Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'


    Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'


    Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a former army colleague said.

    "He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans," Col Lee told Fox News.

    "He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we should not be in the war in the first place." He said that Maj Hasan said he was "happy" when a US soldier was killed in an attack on a military recruitment centre in Arkansas in June. An American convert to Islam was accused of the shootings.

    Col Lee alleged that other officers had told him that Maj Hasan had said "maybe people should strap bombs on themselves and go to Time Square" in New York.

    Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up' - Telegraph
    Anyone still want to argue that this wasn't religiously motivated and that he wasn't a jihadist?

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Anyone still want to argue that this wasn't religiously motivated and that he wasn't a jihadist?
    Who cares what his motivation was? Does it change the fact that he's a nutjob and killed several innocent people? Obviously, his behavior doesn't bespeak of the majority of peaceful Muslims across the world. Rather than blaming Islam, perhaps we should...i don't know...blame the guy who was shooting people?

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Anyone still want to argue that this wasn't religiously motivated and that he wasn't a jihadist?
    He's def. got a great case of Jihadist mentality in him, but I don't see the main stream Islamic notation that you claim is in the rhetoric; he wouldn't fit in with 99% of the Muslim population.

    Point of Clarification: Was he saying these remarks BEFORE he began shooting? Or once put into custody? If the former then I have some questions regarding the chain of command.
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Who cares what his motivation was? Does it change the fact that he's a nutjob and killed several innocent people? Obviously, his behavior doesn't bespeak of the majority of peaceful Muslims across the world. Rather than blaming Islam, perhaps we should...i don't know...blame the guy who was shooting people?
    No I think I'll blame Islamism and the global jihad, this is just one incident in a concerted global initiative of Islamist Imperialist Expansionism through offensive jihad.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Anyone still want to argue that this wasn't religiously motivated and that he wasn't a jihadist?
    It certainly looks bad for the CAIR crew.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    No I think I'll blame Islamism and the global jihad, this is just one incident in a concerted global initiative of Islamist Imperialist Expansionism through offensive jihad.
    Do you even know what the word "jihad" means? Do you think peppering your post with it somehow makes your point more poignant?

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    He's def. got a great case of Jihadist mentality in him, but I don't see the main stream Islamic notation that you claim is in the rhetoric; he wouldn't fit in with 99% of the Muslim population.

    Point of Clarification: Was he saying these remarks BEFORE he began shooting? Or once put into custody? If the former then I have some questions regarding the chain of command.
    FNC just played Col. Lee's comments again and I got the impression he said these things before the shootings as Lee hasn't had contact with Hasan recently.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    FNC just played Col. Lee's comments again and I got the impression he said these things before the shootings as Lee hasn't had contact with Hasan recently.
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    I'm not one to criticize our military efforts, but... really? No one could hear the Time-Bomb's ticking in the room?
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Anyone still want to argue that this wasn't religiously motivated and that he wasn't a jihadist?
    Let's set aside the obvious issues with relying on hearsay (and hearsay within hearsay) and turn to a related question.

    What are your thoughts on hate crime legislation?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    It certainly looks bad for the CAIR crew.
    How exactly does this look bad for them? Was he a board member? Did he scream "Allahu CAIRbar" as he went on his rampage? Or do you mean to say that because you've concluded that this was Islamic terror, all muslims are somehow responsible? Furthermore, would you say that the shooting in Orlando "looks bad for the [insert Hispanic organization] crew?

    Please advise.
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    ....

    I'm not one to criticize our military efforts, but... really? No one could hear the Time-Bomb's ticking in the room?
    Which is the reason why I'm hesitant to believe these claims without further information. If someone in the army was saying that muslims should rise up and kill americans, and that he wanted people to strap on bombs and go to times square, and that he was giddy about US soldiers being killed, don't you think someone would have mentioned this before this incident?
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