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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post










    Stossel demands a section number for this bull****! Here: Patriot Act HR 3162

    AND YOU CAPITALIZE THE 'C' IN CONSTITUTION BECAUSE IT'S A PROPER NOUN!
    Not anymore it's not... now it's written with a small c like you would spell 'toilet paper' because that's how it's been treated lately.

    SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
    (a) DOMESTIC TERRORISM DEFINED- Section 2331 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

    (1) in paragraph (1)(B)(iii), by striking `by assassination or kidnapping' and inserting `by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping';
    (2) in paragraph (3), by striking `and';
    (3) in paragraph (4), by striking the period at the end and inserting `; and'; and
    (4) by adding at the end the following:
    `(5) the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--
    `(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
    `(B) appear to be intended--
    `(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
    `(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
    `(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
    `(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.'.
    Now the rest of the B part can be justified in many ways, but the wording also doesn't preclude political activism.

    Who the hell is stossel?

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    with a small c like you would spell 'toilet paper'
    You had best not be an American Citizen.

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Now the rest of the B part can be justified in many ways, but the wording also doesn't preclude political activism.
    Wow, that's quite a stretch. From "involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State" plus a myriad of other requirements to, how did you so eloquently put it? "you can be deemed a 'domestic terrorist' for violating any 'federal or state law' and then stripped of your constitutional rights"

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Who the hell is stossel?
    Oh hell no, I KNOW you're not a real American now.
    Last edited by EpicDude86; 11-08-09 at 11:13 PM. Reason: This post was my 667th. There is no more mark of the Beast!!! HUZZAH!

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    You had best not be an American Citizen.
    I'm not the one that's treating it like that... I'm hear DEFENDING the constitution and I'm told that I had better not be a citizen... WOW...

    Wow, that's quite a stretch. From "involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State" plus a myriad of other requirements to, how did you so eloquently put it? "you can be deemed a 'domestic terrorist' for violating any 'federal or state law' and then stripped of your constitutional rights"
    Listen, friend, a drug dealer (not that I'm promoting drug use) is engaged in 'acts dangerous to human life' AND is in 'violation of the criminal laws of the united states or of any state'... and so are treated like 'domestic terrorists'... (I may not agree with drug dealing, but I also don't agree that they should be treated as 'terrorists')

    Now, as much as wiki is a questionable source, this one has the most examples in one link :
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_invocations_of_the_USA_PATRIOT_Act]Controversial invocations of the USA PATRIOT Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Oh and that's without getting into the sections of the patriot act that have been deemed unconstitutional by american judges... :

    Oh hell no, I KNOW you're not a real American now.
    Isn't it amazing that I should care more about what's going on on the other side of the border and across the pond... the fact of the matter is that the same types of laws exist in Canada as well... so just because I'm not american doesn't make it any less relevant for myself and my family.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    They're not going around killing people...yet.


    >.>
    8 years since we invaded a muslim country. I think there would have been more killings by now if the American muslims had had a mind to.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    So deport all Muslims right?
    I asked you a series of questions for the purpose of having a debate. That's why I haven't been aggressive with you. Don't play games with me. No matter how smart you are, I am more experienced in the techniques of debate. Answer my questions and I will answer yours. Debate me or I will come down on you like the wrath of god. Balls in your court.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Muslims want to be fully embraced by Americans despite the baggage that comes with Muslims in general.

    Millions of Americans think the baggage is too great to abide.

    With greater numbers of Muslim comes a greater frequency of Islamic violence.
    Gee this sounds like a tract from the 60's, when Blacks started to demand equality, and whites (southerners especially) said "they" should go back to Africa. And I think the number of murders of white people committed by blacks, and vice versa is 10000% higher than any violence by Muslim Americans.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    I'm not the one that's treating it like that... I'm hear DEFENDING the constitution and I'm told that I had better not be a citizen... WOW...
    You were disrespectful to the "Highest Law in the Land" and got cocky about it. Not my fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Listen, friend, a drug dealer (not that I'm promoting drug use) is engaged in 'acts dangerous to human life' AND is in 'violation of the criminal laws of the united states or of any state'... and so are treated like 'domestic terrorists'... (I may not agree with drug dealing, but I also don't agree that they should be treated as 'terrorists')

    Now, as much as wiki is a questionable source, this one has the most examples in one link :
    Controversial invocations of the USA PATRIOT Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Oh and that's without getting into the sections of the patriot act that have been deemed unconstitutional by american judges... :
    Show me some cases where your average, everyday pothead gets the Patriot Act treatment. Then tell me some smugglers from Columbia helping to bring in over 80% of the nation's cocaine, killing anyone who gets in their way, don't deserve to be considered terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Isn't it amazing that I should care more about what's going on on the other side of the border and across the pond... the fact of the matter is that the same types of laws exist in Canada as well... so just because I'm not american doesn't make it any less relevant for myself and my family.
    The Stossel thing was a joke, dude. It's to keep an air of humor around here.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    Gee this sounds like a tract from the 60's, when Blacks started to demand equality, and whites (southerners especially) said "they" should go back to Africa. And I think the number of murders of white people committed by blacks, and vice versa is 10000% higher than any violence by Muslim Americans.
    You've been called out. I'm waiting for a response.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    Gee this sounds like a tract from the 60's, when Blacks started to demand equality, and whites (southerners especially) said "they" should go back to Africa. And I think the number of murders of white people committed by blacks, and vice versa is 10000% higher than any violence by Muslim Americans.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Most recently? Pakistan.
    Which is like saying that the hillbillies captured Appalachia and the Ozarks.

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