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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Depends on how do you translate "Jihad" .
    Just kidding with you man.
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Just kidding with you man.
    I have to remove the doh then, lol .
    I posted before you write that sharpton joke .

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Whats the benefit from knowing that ?
    I am pretty sure that he wasn't getting a good treatment from all because of his religion,
    No he got a hard time because he praised suicide bombers and said Muslims should kill Americans. Nobody had a problem with him because he was a Muslim but because he was an Islamist, and with good reason.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Well a great deal of them already do (Turkey,
    Agreed but only to the extent that Islamist parties are banned.

    Azerbaijan,
    Nope:

    freedomhouse.org: Country Report

    Malaysia,
    They're getting better:

    freedomhouse.org: Map of Freedom in the World

    Iran etc.)
    Iran? Really? Come on buddy they were shooting peaceful protesters in the streets. I'd have went with Indonesia, Turkey, Albania, Niger, and Yemen, though with the possible exception of Albania religious minorities are still highly discriminated against in these countries though not generally by the state but by society.

    and we happen to be arming a great deal of the regimes that dont. (saudi arabia and the like). So the balls as much in our court as it is in theres.
    Look what happened when we put pressure on the Shah of Iran to liberalize. We forced him to release political prisoners, got him to take the educational institutions out of the hands of the clerics, and then abandoned all support for him leading to his eminent overthrow due to the liberal policies we ourselves put pressure on him to implement. And now what's left is a regime far worse than the Shah ever was.

    The problem with the ME is not U.S. support or lack of U.S. support it is Islamist indoctrination from the cradle to the grave. It doesn't matter who their leaders are

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    And if you'd bothered to pay attention, you'd know that the reason the FBI didn't do anything about those postings when they first saw them is because they didn't know if they were posted by this guy. Believe it or not, there is more than one Nidal Hasan in the world. If it turns out that this was the guy, which seems likely, then we'll have more information to go on. I'm going to wait until we know that for sure.
    They were doing something about it, the FBI had him under investigation and was in the process of tracking the posts back to him.


    Reread the guy's claims. Much of it is hearsay and that that isn't seems a little strange.
    No the quote from the OP was not hearsay, the Colonel said he heard him say it directly, that is eyewitness testimony.

    Again, I ask a relatively simple question:

    If someone in the army was saying that muslims should rise up and kill americans, and that he wanted people to strap on bombs and go to times square, and that he was giddy about US soldiers being killed, don't you think someone would have mentioned this before this incident?
    He was under investigation.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    It was probably not the best example; religious minorities are certainly excluded from political power in Iran but in the sense that you can practice your religion without interference (e.g by going to a church or a synagogue)
    B.S. you can, try passing out a bible or prostelytizing or try having a non-Muslim man marry a Muslim woman, or try converting from Islam, or hay try being Bahai. Iran has 0 religious freedom it doesn't exist.
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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Let us not get caught up on the why. We can formulate the why as the investigation continues or within the confines of our brains. let us instead look at the what. WHAT did he do? He killed other Americans.


    That makes me....ANGRY! >:C

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    And what have these imperialists captured so far?
    Most recently? Pakistan.

    How have they expanded?
    Ethnic cleansing of non-Muslims.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Agreed but only to the extent that Islamist parties are banned.



    Nope:

    freedomhouse.org: Country Report



    They're getting better:

    freedomhouse.org: Map of Freedom in the World



    Iran? Really? Come on buddy they were shooting peaceful protesters in the streets. I'd have went with Indonesia, Turkey, Albania, Niger, and Yemen, though with the possible exception of Albania religious minorities are still highly discriminated against in these countries though not generally by the state but by society.



    Look what happened when we put pressure on the Shah of Iran to liberalize. We forced him to release political prisoners, got him to take the educational institutions out of the hands of the clerics, and then abandoned all support for him leading to his eminent overthrow due to the liberal policies we ourselves put pressure on him to implement. And now what's left is a regime far worse than the Shah ever was.

    The problem with the ME is not U.S. support or lack of U.S. support it is Islamist indoctrination from the cradle to the grave. It doesn't matter who their leaders are

    LMAO at that freedom house site... it put Great britain as 'FREE'... LMAO... you can't even take pictures without being searched, other times the 'offender' is put in a terrorist database, or accused of being a potential child pornographer...
    BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | Innocent photographer or terrorist?

    The US and Canada, 'free'... lol... in canada you can't have a beer and a cigarette at the same time. you gotta take your shoes off to get on a plane, the highest concentration of a prison population in the US then ANYWHERE else in the world, I mean seriously, the US is just a few steps away from a police state.

    Now, I don't know about those other places, but north america and britain should fall in the 'partly free' category at best.

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    Re: Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Let us not get caught up on the why. We can formulate the why as the investigation continues or within the confines of our brains. let us instead look at the what. WHAT did he do? He killed other Americans.


    That makes me....ANGRY! >:C
    I think an interesting question would be : Was this guy on a prozac or ritalin family of drugs?? I mean, 90% or so of mass shootings are related to this family of drugs, to the extent that it's even a warned side-effect on the drug insert.

    I know it'll be called 'conspiracy theory' but I figured that those in the army would be screened out for anti-war tendencies, among a few other things that had been reported that suggest the possibility that this man could have been a victim of MK-Ultra (mind control experiments, simply put. That have been partially declassified)

    Then again, it's outwardly possible that this man really was a muslim extremist... but the safe money is on this guy taking some form of prozac or ritalin.

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